10% Of New Vehicles Purchased in California Are EVs

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  1. orenji

    orenji Senior Member

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    10% is 10% any way you slice it. It’s still a small amount in the overall picture.
     
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    if 10% plugin sales in Cali is, "still a small amount in the overall picture" ..... then the inability to push but a few thousand hydrogen cars over SEVERAL years, is what, in the overall picture ........
    Choose label below ~
    Insignificant?
    Sub minuscule?
    Teeny weeny?
    Taxpayer money waste?
    Nonexistent?
    What's the point?
    What's a fuel cell?
    A waste of dealership space?
    Why bother?
    ya gotta be kidding?
    Wow! That's little?
    Maybe more in 10 years?

    Pick your overall descriptor here _______.

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    No it’s not. It’s a bigger impact if the 10% is of a larger total volume. This helps the manufacturers lower cost by selling more.

    10% of 1.9 million sales (couldn’t find the number for 2018 but they said it’s slightly less than 2 mil) is 190,000 cars.

    Norway’s 31.2% BEV sales gets the headlines but 31.2% of 147,929 is 46,000 units.

    You’re gonna tell me Norway is doing better? Sure as a society but the US has the capability of influencing the market much more easily with a lower percentage of market penetration.

    4x more electric cars were sold in California than the entire country of Norway. How’s that for a headline?
     
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    Looking forward to just 1% in China ..... that'll be heeeuge.
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    IMO the BEV market should also consider BEV vehicles such as electric bicycles, scooters, and motorbikes in addition to cars. My impression is that China has the clear lead in sales volume of all three types of BEV vehicles as they have been building e-bikes since the early 2000s, and more recently have extended that motor and battery capacity to building e-scooters and motorbikes. Since ICE transportation is limited by law in several large central urban areas in China, there has been a continued popular demand for BEV vehicles that does not yet exist in other markets.
    I think we must consider the BEV vehicle mix rather than just BEV Automobiles because there are potential tradeoffs in the usage across vehicle categories : one piece of evidence was a European study of the effect of e-bikes on automobile use, and if I recall the result correctly, the e-bike replaced use of the automobile for a significant percentage (around 10%?) of the 5km to 10km distance “errand” trips. That doesn’t sound like much, but the European automakers were apparently concerned about e-bikes potentially affecting their auto sales.
     
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    That’s your opinion
     
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    California is its own country by Domestic Gross Product when compared to some countries. Norway is a small blip compared to California.
     
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    Wow talk about backwards thinking. I’m sorry but that’s in ignorant policy.

    Pollution is scientifically bad for your health. To actively punish people who drive vehicles that are not heavy polluters is asinine.
     
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    worse. That area is likely <1% of all sales. All laws (presuming anyone remembers Civics from high school) must be rationally related to achieving a stated objective. If the objective is "fair share" of road tax - paying something is 'related' ..... getting 'more' from 1%ers though is not - especially while incentivizing large fuel users. Would have to read legislative history to really see how that all went down.
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    I’m in Nashville right now. Damn gas is cheap. Trucks are everywhere.
     
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