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Prime Premium 2018 Mileage

Discussion in 'Prime Fuel Economy & EV Range' started by RickyPrimeOwner, Feb 16, 2019.

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  1. RickyPrimeOwner

    RickyPrimeOwner New Member

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    Daily I drive around 20 miles round trip to work followed by short trip weekend shopping. After overnight full change when driving with EV Auto or HV/EV Mode the charging only last for around 25 miles and switches to ECO Mode driving.

    Bought this Prime Premium 2018 at the end of dec 2018 and with no long distance drive from last two months its giving around 75 MPG. Filled the gas take twice till now with 1500 miles ODO.

    Please let me know if I need to change any setting or use other drive mode for better MPG with short distance driving.

    If the electric milage is same with both EV Auto or HV/EV Modes what is the difference ? How do I use the hybrid mode for better MPG.

    Please advice..

    Cheers
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    schja01 One of very few in Chicagoland

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    Outside temperature this time of year by you?
    What are summers like?
    WAG at 25 miles per charge you’re in the ballpark.
    Why mess with the modes and just leave it in EV as long as it can. At 20 miles per day it’s likely you can run in EV 100% of the time. 999.9 mpg.
     
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    25 miles EV range in winter in NJ is normal. I keep mine on ECO mode all the time for I never have to marge on hwy or clime up steep hills. If your daily drive is only 10 miles each way, you should be able to drive 100% EV. However, if you are using heat in morning when out side temp is below 14F, or needing front defroster, as might as drive HV, since ICE will come on anyway. Also, "75MPG" on display is meaningless with mixed EV and HV drives.
     
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    Don’t confuse eco/normal/power mode options with ev/ev auto/hv modes
    Read the manual for a better understanding
     
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    Thanks for the responses !

    But still did not understand; if this car will give advertised 130 around MPG only when driven on the charge. It's not possible to charge for every 25 miles.

    Not sure if ECO mode is considered to be hybrid which uses both GAS and Electric for better milage.

    Let me read the manual again but Bisco please help me if possible.
     
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    The 133 number is MPGe, note the "e" at the end. Do not drop the "e" as it means something different than mpg. 133mpge is the equivalent miles per gallon that the car will get in electric mode. Basically, if you're getting around 25 miles on a full charge, you're getting close to 133MPGe. (because based on the capacity of the battery, you get the advertised mileage to get the advertised range).

    Hybrid mode is a separate rating.

    Like @bisco said, Eco/Normal/Power is different from EV, HV and EV Auto.

    Let's start with EV/HV/EV Auto. This controls the car's drivetrain state.

    EV Mode: The default setting (assuming there is enough charge in the battery) is EV Mode. You can drive around solely on electric power for up to 25 miles (more or less depending on temperature, tire pressure, how you drive, the terrain of your commute etc etc). You can floor it and it will remain in EV mode and keep the engine off until the battery charge runs low. When that happens, it will switch to HV (hybrid) mode and operate like a regular Prius.

    HV mode: This is hybrid mode. There are two ways to get here. 1) You can choose to go into HV mode at any time by pressing the EV/HV button. If there is charge left in the battery, this mode is similar to a "battery save" function. The hybrid system will still use a bit of battery but it will mostly remain intact. This is good if the first part of your trip involves highway driving and the latter or last part of your trip involves in-town driving. This allows you to use the gasoline engine efficiently at highway speed and save the battery charge for driving in EV mode when you're in-town. The reason you might want to do this is because your EV range will drop quickly at highway speeds. If you don't have a place to charge at your destination, then you may want to switch to HV first then EV later.

    EV Auto: This setting tells the computer to choose the powertrain that matches your accelerator input, terrain and fuel efficiency. It will use electricity or engine depending on which it thinks is the most efficient at the time. I recently did a 25 mile trip in EV Auto and got to my destination with 3 miles left. The gas engine was on for a few of the uphill sections so that helped "extend" my EV range. So far, I've found it's best used for longer trips (near 25 miles or more) that aren't at highway speeds.

    Drive Modes - Eco/Normal/Power

    These control the accelerator pedal sensitivity, partially control the climate control system and possibly the engine as well.

    Eco Mode: This is the least sensitive accelerator pedal setting. This allows for fine tuning of how much power you request through your right food. It allows to better control gliding and accelerating slowly to achieve excellent efficiency (both in electric and gas mode). If you select Eco mode from another mode, it will automatically turn on the "Eco Heat/Cool" setting for the climate control. This limits the maximum electricity consumption for the air conditioning compressor or heat pump to reduce energy consumption. Depending on the outside temperature, this also means it may take longer to heat or cool. Of course, you can manually control Eco Heat/Cool and have it on or off.

    Normal mode: This is just the normal setting that Toyota wants for the vehicle. It blends efficiency and driving responsiveness. If your climate control was already in Eco Heat/Cool mode, it will retain that setting. If Eco Heat/Cool is off, it will not turn it on.

    Power Mode: This makes the accelerator pedal super responsive and is meant for spirited driving. Based on the information for the regular Prius, this mode can also recognise your spirited driving and slightly adjust the drivetrain responsive to match your driving style. (Mostly the engine response).
     
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    i think tideland covered everything nicely, but if you have more specific questions, fire away.

    i hope you didn't buy thecae thinking it returned 130 mpg, 60 will be more like it.
     
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    Ie Using B mode....

    I am a new member and have had this prime premium 5 days and drove from Virginia to North Ga on a tank.. the “auto drive cruise” at 70 ish, helped a great deal on improving mileage. 64 or so.
    Coming down the Blue Ridge pkwy actually increased it significantly to about 74. On the long long steeper downhills I put it in B mode and it charged the battery a good deal.:)

    Love car... Quiet ... and great for the German Shepard ( he loves lying in the very back landing with seat down).

    I was not expecting it to “feel” heavy and solid.:). Toyota actually built a great machine!

    Try B mode on long downhills to see results in self charging:)
    Thanks
    Robert