Influenza 2018-2019 vaccination

False. The flu vaccine is less effective than last year. It has around 20% accuracy, compared to around 40% last year, based on the flu season on the other side of the World. So, it’s not more effective. It still needs to be improved. Although it’s impossible for any vaccine to have 100% accuracy, and for herd immunity to ever exist, there are clear ways to improve the forecasting and accuracy of the vaccine, by improving the manufacturing process, but we all accept low accuracy rates. It could be that people are finally following good hygiene, and sick people are staying home. My local school district cancelled classes for nearly a week because they thought they had a high level of flu cases. The verdict is still out as to whether that was the case. That statement by the CDC is a standard press release, nothing more than that. We love hysteria, and it’s the job of their PR office to provide false information to promote a vaccination that isn’t great. I have good friends at the CDC that know better. We deserve better vaccines.

 

Yeah, one death from measles (an elderly man) in the last five years is worth doing a witch hunt for those that choose not to vaccinate. Our country is losing its mind. Most adults aren’t up to date on their vaccines, it’s rare for any adult to get titers to check immunity, and it’s unethical to do double blind studies of vaccinations, because it’s unethical to not vaccinate to test effectiveness. I vaccinate, but I can see both sides. How can you truly say a vaccine is safe if you can’t test it like pharmaceutical drugs? Love the constant finding of easiest solutions without information to back it up. Build a wall for immigrants because that will stop things, make everyone get vaccines because we have had catastrophic outbreaks that don’t exist. I don’t care who gets vaccines. I can’t tell who is and who isn’t. It never crosses my mind.

 

You need to stop thinking that herd immunity will ever exist. Most vaccinations have a 15% failure rate, and that’s an optimistic percentage, as no one gets titers to check immunity, unless in the medical profession. I got mine when I was pregnant and had to pay nearly $1,000 out of pocket because insurance doesn’t cover it. There are already better flu vaccine protocols that have been developed. But, they compete with major pharmaceutical companies that currently supply the ineffective vaccine. The only way that will change is for people putting pressure on Congress to stop allowing the current process, but that’s unlikely until we get a lot of new blood elected that haven’t been receiving funding from such companies. The best solution is higher voter turnout, because it’s embarrassing how few people vote...and in the groups that it affects the most, like me, a new parent.

 

lady next to me in church had an overwhelming couch drop aroma and kept trying to hide her hacking. i wanted to scream 'you're allowed to miss mass if you're sick!' people can be so thoughtless of others, in church of all places.

 

I’m not going to convince you otherwise, asyou gave your mind made up, and since this is hardly a recent data source, that you posted, but read this.
The actual CDC data can be found at this link. One death isn’t concerning to me...yet, let’s freak out.

Data Access - Vital Statistics Online

 

I agree! I hate that noise, too when people try to hide sickness. With all the conveniences we have like grocery pickup and delivery, meal delivery, drive thru pharmacies, if you are sick, or feeling under the weather, stay home. I’d bet God would understand. There are televised services. Sometimes cough drops are used because of allergies, but it seems like she was fighting something. I blame employers since most are not understanding, don’t provide sick days with pay, and most people live paycheck to paycheck. We should be grateful to those who stay home to get better, not encourage spreading of germs.

 

No.

This season’s effectiveness is as Tochatihu stated. I can strongly confirm these CDC findings here in Northern California as well.

Weekly U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report | CDC

 

maybe it was allergies. argh! now i have to go to confession.

 

It’s still a projection. It’s too early to be final, and flu season is far from over. A strain that is not covered by this years vaccine has been increasing, which isn’t great news. There is higher effectiveness with washing your hands frequently, cleaning high use areas, sneezing in tissues and not in hands, and staying home if feeling under the weather. The problem with this vaccine is that it gives people security that it shouldn’t. You have to be careful regardless if you got the vaccine or not. If I had $100 for every adult that tried to touch my baby, saying don’t worry, I got the flu shot, thinking they couldn’t pass along crud, I’d be driving a Tesla, not a Prius.

 

Considering that indigenous measles as eradicated from the U.S. in 2000, and from the America's region in 2002, these imported outbreaks and subsequent deaths (thousands of cases and a dozen deaths since 'eradication') are a big deal. They are wrecking the prior eradication.

While only 1 to 2 measles patients per thousand dies from it, the transmission rate among unvaccinated contacts is very high. Herd immunity requires a very high vaccination rate, and numerous communities have fallen far below that necessary rate.

Re: Darla Shine:
"“The entire Baby Boom population alive today had the #Measles as kids,” she bizarrely added. “Bring back our #ChildhoodDiseases they keep you healthy & fight cancer.”
"I had the #Measles #Mumps #ChickenPox as a child and so did every kid I knew,” she wrote."

Uh, no. Darla wasn't born until June 1968. The Baby Boom cohorts (1946-64) were 4 million kids per year, so while very many kids were getting it before the vaccine existed, most were not. Then by the time she was born, four years after the Baby Boom ended, very few kids were getting it anymore:


Epidemiology of measles - Wikipedia

 

Choose to believe what you wish. But Wikipedia is hardly a credible source and you are missing very important pieces of the puzzle. One death a year is to be expected, and isn’t a concern. The measles vaccine is pretty widespread, unlike what you suggest. The amount of people not getting it as part of an exemption are hardly at concerning rates. We just have this garbage being spread about herd immunity that isn’t accurate. If you have vaccines that are not 100% effective, no matter if everyone gets it, you aren’t going to get herd immunity. The amount of people walking around who have gotten a vaccine who don’t have immunity isn’t nonexistent. When is the last time you got your measles vaccine, and a titer to show immunity? You can’t suggest herd immunity if you don’t even know if you are immune. Vaccinations aren’t simple, cut and dry. They are complex, with many issues, exceptions, contradictions, and the only part of the population that has high current vaccination levels are children. You don’t see any vaccination requirements past age 18, unless you work in the medical profession. I have yet to have to furnish vaccination records, titer results, ever. Maybe that should be part of the next witch hunt. Everyone has to get titers or they can’t work, because anyone can write shot records on a piece of paper. While we are at it, let’s force anyone who isn’t an ideal size/weight to lose weight, because type 2 diabetes is more of an epidemic than measles, and more people have it than are diagnosed. Let’s just take away all freedoms because we draw conclusions based on perception, and not fact. Sounds like the Handmaid’s tale or 1984 to me. Yuck.

 

You said tochatihu's claim was "False" then stated "The flu vaccine is less effective than last year." Again, your statement is not correct. We don't have to wait for final numbers.

The majority of influenza viruses characterized antigenically and genetically are similar to the cell-grown reference viruses representing the 2018–2019 Northern Hemisphere influenza vaccine viruses.

Antigenic and genetic characterization of circulating influenza viruses gives an indication of the influenza vaccine's ability to induce an immune response against the wide array of influenza viruses that are co-circulating every season.

 

Certainly glad you don't treat patients.

 

Also not correct, his chart is historically accurate.

Graph of U.S. Measles Cases | History of Vaccines

Also not correct, two doses of MMR vaccine are about 97% effective at preventing measles. Excellent for herd immunity. That's right, 97% regardless of what your titers are.

 

Certain counties in my state have vaccination rates far below that needed for herd immunity. The current outbreak is centered in a heavily Slavic church community in which the immigrant adults were required to be vaccinated under Soviet occupation, but who are refusing to vaccinate their children.

Then a single infected child from the old country visited the church ...

Are you claiming that the measles vaccine effectiveness is less than the require herd immunity rate? Not from the indications we are getting. What is it, just a single vaccinated person here in my state's current outbreak, compared to 50+ unvaccinated patients?

MMR on 9/11/2002, according to my health provider's online records. That was at least my third lifetime dose.

So you are suggesting that diabetes is even more transmissible and contagious than measles.

Sad.

 

Read this. You are so misinformed, which isn’t entirely your fault. In an age where scare tactics are the most common way to deliver information, it’s common to get lost and believe sources that contain no real data. Measles: The New Red Scare | Foreign Policy Journal

 

Oh, and yes, type 2 diabetes, although not contagious, but 100% preventable, unless you count it as having clearly hereditary links, which is still only an added risk, not a guarantee with the right health regimen, is a huge problem. With the amount of people in the U.S. alone who are overweight, smokers, alcohol drinkers, not checking glucose levels with record sugar consumption starting at a young age, low exercise rates, and low healthy food consumption or knowledge, diabetes is huge. That is truly sad. Type 2 Diabetes: Demystifying the Global Epidemic | Diabetes

I’d love to see all those pushing for vaccine requirements to be okay with the government requiring people to lose weight, etc. and get mandatory testing for diabetes. I don’t think that would go over well. We love being unhealthy in this country and expect that vaccines, drugs, and shakes can somehow help with that. They don’t. The side effects of type 2 are truly heartbreaking, especially in children. They deserve better.