1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Michelin Energy Saver A/S

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Fuel Economy' started by GaryD1, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,985
    8,886
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Read Lee Jay's comment. He claims 20-30% hit continued and never recovered.
     
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    mine were the same or a little better, from the get go
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  3. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,693
    39,238
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    I've also had some new tires where mpg didn't skip a beat.
     
    bisco, GaryD1 and Raytheeagle like this.
  4. CooCooCaChoo

    CooCooCaChoo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2015
    932
    523
    0
    Location:
    Cow-lee-fornia
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius
    Model:
    LE
    I'm going with Ecopias when it comes time for new rubber. I've had great experiences with them on my 2004 Prius. When the weather turned cold about a month ago, I instantly lost 5mpg. I would say that some loss is due to the cold weather, some due the newer tires and some due to the fact that you are riding on different tires from oem. Have you checked your tires pressures after getting the tires installed?
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  5. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,257
    15,491
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    When I put Bridgestone turanza Serenities on our 2010 at 120 k miles, I was averaging 48 mpg displayed. With the previous Coopers I was at 47 and they only lasted 65 k miles.

    The original Ecopias lasted 55 k miles and delivered 50 mpg.

    Now with 192 k miles on the Prius we’re at 49.4 mpg displayed.

    So not much difference here between different brands.

    I buy based on tread life and will be looking for another round of Serenities when these give up the ghost.
     
  6. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    5,850
    4,028
    0
    Location:
    Westminster, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    Yeah...new tires have more rolling resistance than old ones, but this is worse. I'm wondering if it'll improve after break-in. I've only got a few hundred miles on them.
     
  7. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,693
    39,238
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    What's weird: they're supposed to be LLR leaders. :confused:
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  8. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    low leaking resistance?
     
  9. Raytheeagle

    Raytheeagle Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2016
    11,257
    15,491
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, California
    Vehicle:
    2019 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
  10. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i must have lucked out and got the 'other' energy savers:rolleyes:
     
    Data Daedalus, Raytheeagle and padroo like this.
  11. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,693
    39,238
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Oh eff, my turn!
     
    Data Daedalus and padroo like this.
  12. padroo

    padroo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    2,763
    2,251
    13
    Location:
    Chesterton, Indiana Another third world country.
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I never plan on wearing my TOYO's out.
     
  13. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,985
    8,886
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Of course, on PRIME it is difficult to compare mpg from different set of tires. And EV range can vary day to day even with a same set of tires. I don't know what is the good way to compare one set of tire and another set on PRIME for fuel efficiency except running full tank of gas without any charging, which is what I am doing on my new set of Michelin Xice winter tires.
     
    #33 Salamander_King, Dec 2, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 2, 2018
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  14. GaryD1

    GaryD1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    302
    138
    0
    Location:
    Seagrove, NC
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    This is my 3rd set of Michelin Energy Saver A/S. I have 800 miles on new tires. I always got good gas mileage with new tires without breaking in period with the exception of this set.
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  15. GaryD1

    GaryD1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2011
    302
    138
    0
    Location:
    Seagrove, NC
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    This is the same tread I have
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  16. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,166
    50,060
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i know, go figure. i think mine have the 44 psi max, they are about 1 1/2 years old, iirc
     
  17. alanclarkeau

    alanclarkeau Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    7,044
    7,587
    0
    Location:
    near Brisbane, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    But you're not running either 51 or 44 - that's only the tyre's maximum safe pressure, irrelevant - your pressure is on the tyre pressure placard inside the door.
     
  18. alanclarkeau

    alanclarkeau Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    7,044
    7,587
    0
    Location:
    near Brisbane, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    They need running in - 1000 kms. Is this just one tank-ful - use a couple of tanks, not just the first one, as you can get a false reading with any tank refill. Do you normally log your fills?

    Not sure about your temperature there - if it's cooling down, and particularly if you've got a Li-ION battery, that will affect economy.

    What are they like to drive on - better grip?
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  19. mikes951

    mikes951 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2016
    46
    11
    0
    Location:
    US
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Gas mileage always drop when temperatures drop can lose 10mpg.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    Data Daedalus likes this.
  20. kens97uber171

    kens97uber171 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2018
    177
    132
    0
    Location:
    US
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    He mentioned he got a new alignment also. I'd also look into that. Perhaps they made a mistake. That would certainly effect mileage also.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    Robert Holt and GaryD1 like this.