Nobel Laureate Comes Out of the Nazi Closet...

Don't know who is right here...but here are some interesting articles on the subject...

and by the way...Squid, it scares me that your name is always closely associated with stuff about Nazi's.'
Do you have a fascination with them...or what gives ?

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I guess Danny's say so isn't good enough for Mr. E. Squid.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Aug 16 2006, 08:51 AM) [snapback]304004[/snapback]</div>

You equate being gay and being a Nazi as the same? You're kidding right? You would buy a book written by a Nazi?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Aug 16 2006, 07:43 AM) [snapback]304001[/snapback]</div>

Well, you could have googled it yourself and done a little work. This place we use is a privilege, not a right. If we abuse it, we lose it.

What do you need the code for when Danny has already posted policy? I provided a link. Click on it. That's interactive.

You can also use the internet to find out how to spell Fraulein. Reducing your debate to personal attacks?

 

TPS,

I have not read Grass' autobio, but I do know the furor is not over being in the German military during WW II during an era of mandatory draft, but his being in the Waffen SS and having lied about it for 50 odd years. Perhaps you are not familiar with the activities of the SS during the Nazi regime ?

In many ways Grass is Germany's conscience. He should be required reading for all, let alone for Germans. In some ways his past might only add to his influence, for who better to explain racism, fascism, and militant nationalism run amok, than one who has walked the path ? I would only hope that the author sees fit not to profit from the enterprise.

Btw, I have read smatterings of Hitler's Mein Kampf also. Wasn't worth the money to buy IMO, anymore than Anne Coulter. Otoh, his speeches are very interesting.

Dberman, consider yourself someone who *has* to read Grass. Irony of ironies.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Aug 16 2006, 06:07 PM) [snapback]304334[/snapback]</div>

Which book of Grass' are you going to read ? I don't know that his autobio has won any award; the nobel prize was awarded for 'The Tin Drum'

 

When my Mother (a U.S. citizen) was a child her family went to Germany to visit relatives. The war broke and and they were trapped in Germany, unable to leave. The only childhood photo we have of her is age nine standing on the rubble of a bombed out building. She went through school there and says she still does her timestables in German in her head. When she was 17 she and her older brother (also a U.S. citizen) finally returned to the U.S.

Near the end of the war her older brother was drafted into the German army. He had just turned 16 or 17. He served on the eastern front and was captured by the Russians. He escaped and tried to make his way home but was captured and returned to the Russians. He escaped again and was finally able to make it far enough to surrender to the Americans.

A few years later he and my Mother returned to the U.S. He enlisted in the U.S. military and served in Korea. She got a job in Connecticut and met my Father.

She doesn't talk much about the war. She did tell us about how she used to practice running holding her breath in case the Americans dropped gas bombs. She knows a cousin married into a Jewish family. Her Father left for a few days and when he returned he had some beautifully embroidered handkerchiefs. He swore the entire family to secrecy that he had never left the house. She has no idea who or where these relatives are.

A small percentage of the German population were Nazis. My Mother's family certainly were not. Most didn't have any idea what was going on. They weren't policy-makers. They were just trying to survive.

Isn't there a rule where the first to bring up Nazi's loses?

Consider yourself ignored Squid. I don't know why I waited this long.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Aug 15 2006, 02:21 PM) [snapback]303731[/snapback]</div>

For those with short attention spans, the specific bits about allowable use of copyrighted materials, noting, in particular, the "fair use" doctrine, which, I believe, is what Danny's rules are all about. And we all know just how short squid's attention span is, unless the subject is squid.

Godiva, grrll, next time I am in the southland, I would LOVE to meet with you!