Please Help Prius 2004 MFD Very Slow

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  1. bisco

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    i hope so too!(y)
     
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    how do you test the battery of 12v on the 2010 prius
     
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    Good Luck with it! The 2010 is a nicer car than the 2004, but it prone to burning oil, if they do replace the inverter, that would probably be the next thing to watch out for!
     
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    If it is going to the dealer for the inverter, ask them to test it.
     
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    I have a 04 with the smart key.

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    put a volt meter on the jump point under the hood in the morning, before starting anything.
     
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    are you for real it has oil problems
     
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    Many Toyota models tend to use oil as they age (100+ miles).

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    i have a big question is the prius 2004 battery same as the prius 2010 model or is it better quality ?
     
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    The 28 battery modules are interchangeable but the Gen3 ones have a somewhat lower series resistance and can therefore handle slightly higher current (130 vs 100 amps). The quality is equivalent, but the overall HV batteries are not interchangeable, just the Modules.

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    @jdenenberg you meant 100,000+ miles,
     
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    some experts here claim the gen 3 cells are not as robust. time will tell.
     
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    Bisco,

    The issue on the Gen3 modules is that Toyota chose to push the HV battery to 130A peak currents and the increased heat generated makes life harder for the Gen3 modules. The Modules themselves are actually somewhat better performing than those in Gen2 Prii and, of course, also younger.

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    i went to see my prius at toyota garage and they shows me the papers of the new design gen 3 prius battery it is not alkaline it is nimh a slightly better design and better lifespan than the previous generations
     
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    Gen1, gen2 and Gen3 as well as one of the Gen4 models all use NiMh (Nickle Metal Hydride) battery cells (6 cells in series at 1.2 volts each). My 2016 Gen4 Model 3 uses Lion battery cells.

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    thanks jeff, that is interesting. a few people here who recondition batteries for a living claim they are not as good, but i don't recall why.
     
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    Hey guys i have good newss for my prius 2010 they changed the inverter but they are saying it has the same problem noe the engine starts but the car w not move it says check hybrid system can it be due to clogged egr pipe ?
     
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    do you know anything about this issue they changed the inverter the engin starts but will not go on ready mode or move ?
     
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    Sorry, but my direct experience is with the Gen 2 (i had a 2004) and Gen 4 Prii (I have a 2016), not with the Gen 3 which has a history of egr problems.

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    so it might be the egr pipe is clogged Hmmm
     
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