On a related topic...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(maggieddd @ Jul 29 2006, 07:54 PM) [snapback]294411[/snapback]</div>

I'm not saying joy in having children is related to whether or not they are biological. I'd have joy in having children either way - I just like the thought of seeing, not necessarily a mini-me - but maybe a mini version of my wife and myself.

And I'm not sure where your second statement comes from. Certainly non-biological parents can have tremendous joy in having adopted children. My parents certainly have.

You seem to think I'm knocking adoption or something? I'm a strong supporter of it - After all, I myself was adopted and so was my sister. I don't think of my adopted parents as my adopted parents or my sister as my adopted sister - I think of them as my parents and my sister. Probably the same way someone who isn't adopted would.

Somehow though, because I would like to have biological children with my wife, there is something wrong with that? Because I was adopted, I should first think to adopt?

** EDIT **

Ok.. I see where you are coming from after reading some of your earlier posts - inparticularly this one:

I agree - you are probably correct here. Fact is though, I think there are plenty of people needing to adopt. In addition, I'm not out to save the world. It seems you are though. Just because this is your goal in life, doesn't mean it should be everyone's.

How many foster kids have you adopted?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(heavenleigh @ Jul 29 2006, 11:16 AM) [snapback]294297[/snapback]</div>

It's not the ease of the Essure that's an issue, it's the permanance of the procedure. If there was a single pill that could cause the tubes to close, it's use would probably still be restricted.

There is an abundance of data that shows women who get tubals under the age of 30 are likely to regret the procedure. This piece of data has been listed in our Compendium of practice, the bible that I'm sure some lawyers know as well as Ob/Gyns. Direct quote from that book: "Women sterilized before the age of 25 were 18 times more likely to request reversal...than women over 30 at the time of sterilization."

As for comparing future reproduction in a young woman to an old nose, not even in the same ballpark. I could see the case now, the judge and trial lawyers would say, "This wasn't a nose job or boob job, this was taking away her right to have kids when she was too young to make such an important decision, as proven by this study from the defendant's own national organization."

Just a little story. I just did a tubal on a woman 4 weeks ago. She is 27, had one kid and is married to a guy who has 6 kids. It's the size of her household that was the major factor in getting the tubal. Well, she came in for her post-op check last week and I referred her to therapy because she's having marital problems. Now what happens if she divorces this guy and meets someone with no kids? This is just to illustrate that you never know where life will take you.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ralphh @ Jul 30 2006, 07:22 PM) [snapback]294794[/snapback]</div>

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