Self-driving Uber car kills pedestrian in Tempe, AZ

even i have difficulty with covered old road lines and new ones going a different direction, especially in construction area's. those are slow down and process correctly situations.

 

Indeed. In this discussion, we have to remember that suboptimal road conditions can confuse human drivers too, and human-driving mistakes (there are many) don’t make the news.

On the upside though, there are many mistakes that humans are likely to make that Autopilot (and similar) is very unlikely to make, such a failing to see cars in the target lane of a lane change. Conversely, there are mistakes, like those we’re discussing here, that humans are less likely to be fooled by. Therefore, we can get the best of both human and computer strengths!

 

we can if as you said, 'we stay alert while the car is doing its thing.' but that is a concern as well. we could wind up with human mistakes, and computer mistakes not corrected by inattentive humans.

 

That isn't what they said, but when you get right down to it, that is where the blame lies.
Now, it may have been a medical issue, or something else which most would find 'excusable'. However, it comes down to the driver made no effort to avoid the crash. Was likely not aware of it, as his attention was, apparently, elsewhere.

 

Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield here:

Pointed out an important detail in this case: The crash attenuator has been crushed already by a prescient accident and not yet repaired.

My comment on that video:

You mentioned in passing an important consideration: the collision attenuator at that location had been crushed due to a previous collision. In other words, as tragic as this event was, the sad reality is that these sorts of tragedies happen all the time, Autopilot or not. All in all, they happen less often with Autopilot, ProPilot, Super-Cruise (etc.), but sadly, it’ll be a while before they become a thing of the past. That fact also tells us that this site has managed to confuse human drivers too, and possibly pretty often so, since it hadn’t yet been repaired from the previous collision. So it’s not entirely a ADAS-unsophistication issue; it’s “just” a sad tragedy on the road.

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@235...which is where the problem lies. People don't want to pay attention. They want an automated Chauffeur so they can poke glass or what ever. "AutoPilot" and Autonomous Cars are not the same.

 

To be proactive, Tesla and others should give their systems the ability to determine if the driver was incapacitated, like from a stroke or seizure, and takes steps to pull over and call for help.

 

Careful on the popularity assumptions. I know of no one that actually uses that trick. Sure, it has been posted to youtube. Similar videos are out there fore Mercedes and many other cars. It doesn't mean many people do it.

Having a system that is not so easily fooled is a good idea, but how much are you willing to pay for it?

 

The recovered data shows that there were autopilot warnings to the driver.

 

If Pilots set up autopilot-autothrottle-autoland, even with ADIRUs, TCAS, LRRA, ATC, VHF Comm, ect...(everything with redundant systems) and they crash...guess who's fault it is if they do/did not visually monitor, listen and react to the surroundings, instrumentation, broadcasts and warning systems, ect...

Ground vehicles in congested, non-controlled, un-maintained environments with a single closed system...come on people.

 

The point I'm making is peoples expectation and confusion with A/P vs autonomous vehicles is skewed.

 

or maybe it's just stupidity.

 

Occam's razor; the simplest answer is most likely true!

 

I know they have stated plans for it, when the driver is unresponsive, to pull the car over to the side of the road, stop and call 911. I don’t know, however, whether that has in fact been implemented yet, though.

 

I personally think the best would be eye tracking, which I think I recall Daimler is working on. What matters most is not that you tug at the wheel every now and then, but that you’re paying attention to the road situation.

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