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Solar Panels for my home

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Jnbrown, May 16, 2017.

  1. MikeDee

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    $14.5k after tax break means price is over $20k for 4.5KW installed, it is $4.6/w. What I read is currently price should be around or even lower than $3/w before federal tax rebate. Maybe that is for California only.
     
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    We got quotes from Solar City (Tesla), Sun Power and a local outfit my inlaws used (Greiner out of Dixon) and they were all around $1k per panel after the 30% rebate;).

    We did 3 comparisons and came up with that, so I feel good about our path forward and choice:).

    Could I find a better deal and get more input: sure but there is a time component and not sure I would get much more benefit (y).
     
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    How many watts per panel? 265W? If so it is $3.7 after rebate, that's like 3 years ago price.
     
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    We put in a 7 KW system in 2010 and have gotten a payback from local utility for over-production every year. Not much, but enough to cover the $16/month line fee. Before incentives cost of that system was $50,000. Now that we've added a Bolt to the family we are in the process of adding another 7 KW. It will basically be an independent system from the first one. Going with the same local installer. Pre-tax credit cost of this one is $15,000. Our house includes an in-law quarters which is occupied by a family of four.
     
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    You are kidding me, that price is so good. After tax credit it would be $10500 for 7KW system? Where is the location? I guess not California.
     
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    How well does solar work in the NE? I noticed last month in the Bay Area was very cloudy and my solar production was way down. I think on cloudy days I only get about 25 percent power compared to a sunny day. It must be a pain to keep snow off the panels in the winter.
     
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    We've averaged 9.3 MWH per year over the 8 years we have had this 7.1 KW system. As far as snow, it certainly doesn't pay me to get up and push the snow off the panels, but I simply can't resist, especially if it is a bright sunny day. I was up again yesterday. As I tell my wife, "Lorelei is calling...."
     
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    Got a quote for 6.3KW LG panel for $21-23k installed before tax credit in Sacramento area.
     
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    My panels are on a ground rack, so even though they sit at 45 degrees it is pretty easy to remove snow.

    pvwatts.org will provide a remarkably accurate estimate of electricity production each month by location. Of course, it does not know about shading ...
     
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    Decent.

    How much does a kWh cost you from the utility ?
    Annual kWh production from a watt in your location ?
     
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    My locale is very fortunate to have a fellow who has organized the community to help one another put up PV. I volunteer almost every weekend outside of the winter. I find it gratifying to lend a hand and watch a system go up in a Saturday morning. The owners end up paying about $1 a watt after federal tax credit and find another way to enjoy the Colorado sunshine.
     
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    Be frankly, I am expecting price to be around $3/w, it is more than $3.5/w. This is the 1st quote.

    I am with PG&E, price is ridiculous high. Tier 1 with 400kwh is 20c, Tier 2 with another 400kwh is 27c. And every year price would increase by 1-2c. During past 12 month I used 8000kwh and paid $1700. I am expecting to use around 10000kwh this year and bill would be $2000. So I am looking to install a 6-7kw system.

    I am in Sacramento area and 7kw system should generate 10000kwh per year. But it is really depends, my neighbor have a 4.4kw system and it generated 7300kwh last year.
     
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    Have you used PVwatts to estimate production ? Standard roof siting at 15 degrees in your area returns 1.6 kWh/watt
    Do you have shading issues ?

    10 MWh is half at 20 cents a kWh and half at 27 cents a kWh (and another 400 kWh at tier 3), so I calculate a utility bill of ~ $2,475 a year for the electricity, not including connection fees that you presumably pay regardless.

    You are going to make out like a bandit no matter who you go with.
     
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    I also looked into / got estimates from 3 solar installation contractors... ended up going with the one located the closest to the house (40-ish miles to Kokomo from here... EDIT: which ALSO was the one that has been in business the longest... 8 years)... 7.2 kW set-up (8 panels facing east... 13 facing south) and ALSO went with THEIR suggestion regarding Solar Edge. Not much sun at all lately, but forecast for Saturday through Tuesday is looking good....
     
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    Are prices / quotes in California that high? Our 7.2 kW system came in at less than $18k (before credits applied)....
     
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    GASP... 9.3 mWh average per year? You must get WAY more direct sunlight than we do. So far, the best DAY we've had with our 7.2 KW system was a bit over 24 kWh. Took us 3-1/2 months to get up to 1 MWh, and just TODAY reached 1.25 MWH... but we only have 13 of 21 panels facing south, so the 8 panels facing east will tend to "lag" for probably at least another 2 to 3 weeks, and 5 of the 13 panels facing south are partially shaded by a neighbor's tree, and WILL be partially shaded until probably mid-April....
     
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    SolarEdge has quietly taken over the residential market, and for many good reasons. I know I have been delighted so far. It is also *really* easy and practically free to add internet monitoring since the inverter already has a LAN board with Ethernet port and SolarEdge provides the Server side for free. I pulled ethernet cable through the garage and terminated at a convenient place inside the house where I attached a $20 wi-fi bridge to my home router.
     
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    Yes it generates 1.6Kwh/watt.

    That's superb price.

    Yes installers know our utility price is high and saving is big. So they jacked up the price...