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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by AnotherGreenPrius, Sep 30, 2017.

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  1. AnotherGreenPrius

    AnotherGreenPrius Junior Member

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    mechanic just said to let it air out / keep the doors open and point a fan at it.
     
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    Don't give up just yet. The carpet can be saved if you remove it. It's not difficult as I have done it myself but it is time and space consuming.
    1.Remove the carpet and wash it with soap on the interior side and you'll get out all the stains you had if any in the process. I washed mine on a blue tarp because of step 2.
    2. After rinsing throughly, flip it over and hose it down with water and soap but avoid scrubbing as it's not really possible and really unnecessary.
    3. Try and squeeze out as much water as you can by hand and then use a wet vac to soak up as much water as you can from the back side first. Do it it small sections to avoid tearing the matting. Once your happy flip to the interior side and do the same. It should be easier since this side is thin and has a hard rubber backing so vac away.
    4. Set the carpet with the the matting side up facing the sun on an open surface for a day or two or more. Allow to dry and flip as often as you want but I only did it twice for each side over two days if direct sunlight. I used my other cars roof rack as the drying table.
    5. Remove the interior sound deadening and honestly discard it as it will not be worth saving. You can replace this with junk yard pulled pieces or none at all but noise inside may increase. It's worth at least installing some carpet backing from Lowes, home depot etc. I opted for a junkyard pull for all the above parts because I had a huge hole in it from the previous owner. See sound deadening picture.

    The results were fantastic and no mold has grown in the last 2 months or so.



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    Have posted this info before, but water in the car can get into the traction battery and cause terminal corrosion. It happened to me.

    Suggest you make sure that's dry inside too. But don't ask me how!

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    Nice pictures IH. Lots of work. I think it's a basic decision. If your keeping the car the carpet has to come out
    And if it was my car I would buy a new carpet kit too after all that work. Btw if I took that carpet kit out I would also buy some dynomat on eBay and dynomat the floor. It really helps deaden the sound. They sell a cheaper version of dynomat on eBay that works really good. I matted the entire soare tire well and it helped deaden a lot of sound. It's easy stuff peel and stick.

    Or just dry it up and trade it in or sell it.
     
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    If water entered the passenger compartment you will need it to have risen at least 10" to reach the area of the traction battery. If it entered the trunk area then you'll need at least 12" to reach the traction battery. When I bought my Prius I had no idea water had gotten to the passenger area until I removed the carpet. There was no sign water had made it to that area as I repaired the source of the leak allowing water into the trunk area. As I cleaned up around the rear trunk and traction battery, fan, 12v battery, etc I lifted the rear drivers side carpet to find it was soaked under the visible carpet into the matting and sound deadening material. Once I found this I decided to replace the entire carpet to also resolve the huge hole in the drivers floor carpet although the way through the sound deadening. I missed that huge hole during the private purchase because it's not something I had looked for... Except know I will. Please don't be afraid to at least tackle a job as basic as this which is simply cleaning a material. No one that has been in the car has ever said anything about smell and actually complement it for its fresh clean car smell despite its 225k plus miles. There are only 3 tools required if I remember correctly and note the seat belts don't get removed as there is cut out in the carpet to allow it to come out. Wish I was near the original poster to offer my help.

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    Just telling you my experience. It happened. Water came in through a leak in the "trunk" door as you call it, stayed in the spare wheel compartment, and then when driving down hill and braking, the water must have surged into the battery compartment.

    Just sharing my experience in the hope that it helps!

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    I agree with you and it's probably how I ended up with water in the passenger area. The OP I think had their car stationary at the time and it was a one time leak vs our slow leaks.

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    Alot of G2 Prius have roof leaks. Where the roof meets the quarter panel in the hatch valley corner you can see where the rivet and weld is puttied over and painted. Look for hairline cracks in that area. Its a main body flex area. You can just pop off those black plastic strips on either side of the roof and look for cracks in that hatch corner running up under those plastic strips. Classic water leak area. Drips down inside the car and fills up the back hatch well. Lots of posts on that one.
    Doesn't help slamming the hatch hard I would imagine.
     
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    This was my source of water. Behind the rear lights on booth sides. 20170803_163534.jpg 20170803_163548.jpg

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    Sometimes the challenge is trying to figure out how much a person wants to DIY.
    Some people actually ENJOY challenges like this, and will take it as a opportunity to dismantle 3/4ths of the interior. When they put it back together it's dryer than the Sahara, and has been sound proofed like a recording studio.

    Others just want the problem fixed. And to NOT get mold. And they don't necessarily want to spend weekends on a major project.

    IF...you are of the latter? Then it might cost you some money.
    I might call around to more body shops and detail outfits. See what they say, and how much they quote you.
    If it comes down to picking someone to do it for you?
    I'd want to know exactly what they are doing. How long are they airing it out? What tools do they have to assist in the drying process?
    Do they have any experience dealing with similar flooded vehicle situations?
    If I felt good about those answers? Then I would go with that option. Assuming you don't want to dismantle all your interior yourself.

    Personally? If someone else was removing and drying my carpet and pad? I'd want to inspect it myself BEFORE they re-installed it. Just to make sure they had REALLY let it dry and weren't rushing to get the job done.
     
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    I wanted to tell you how I ended up doing it.

    I used the video above (that valde3 posted) to take out the back seat and remove many of the plastic side panels holding down the carpet, and lifted the carpet up. The only part that was tricky was the driver side front, where I had to unbolt the gas tank release latch. Then I was able to pull all the soggy padding out from under the carpets. I then replaced the soggy padding with those gell-filled absorbent pee-absorbing sheets until those were more or less coming up dry.

    I did not remove the seats, just created access on all four foot areas.

    After things were no longer super soggy, I put stuff under the carpet (like a lysol can, slat of wood, big plastic bottle, etc) to lift the carpet up. Then, when it was sunny, I set up fans to blow into the gap and try to get air under and across the carpet. It dried pretty fast.

    The soggy pads also dried pretty fast.

    ---I want to say, buying those absorbent pee sheets isn't that cheap, I must have spent about $60 bucks on them. And I might have had the body shop take the carpet completely out for $300, but they said they would throw away the soggy pads, whereas when I reassembled things, I put the now-dry pads back in. But the main reason I didn't used the body shop was that everyone scared me to death with stories about how my car would stop working as water creeped up the wires. So I did it myself to not spend money on something that might soon malfunction.---

    I hadn't mentioned this before, but the ABS and brake light had gone on in the flood, so this made me nervous about whether there had been real damage. A mechanic looked at the brakes after the flood and said they were fine. The same lights had gone on for the guy in the Houston flood video, and I wrote to him and he said his warning lights eventually went out. Mine are still currently on, and I was worried that that might make me unable to pass inspection, but I passed inspection just fine last week.

    So, in summary, if you are reading this as freaked out as I was, I hope this soothes you and gives you the courage to pull up the carpet even if you don't think of yourself as terribly mechanically-oriented.
    And I really really appreciate the advice and support of all the folks here, it was such a comfort to have this thread, especially when people locally were giving me what turned out to be totally doom and gloom advice.
     
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    I want to add, this is an older car and I don't carry comprehensive coverage on it. I think a lot of people who are like "it's trashed" are used to dealing with insurance companies who don't want to take on the liability of a car with flood history.

    And I wanted to add that, crucially, this flooding happened in Boston in October, and it was not that hot (though there were highs in the 70s). I think this gave me some leeway with mildew.
     
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    Congrats on taking on the challenge yourself! Your brake lights should go off on there own with a few drives which should remove the surface rust that has accumulated and since your mechanic checked I would be to worried. There is an OBD2 paper clip trick that can reset that light for you. Congratulations again.

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    Surface rust on the rotors will NOT cause a brake system failure light.

    But a wheel speed sensor that is ruined by being submerged in water might.

    If the light stays lit, it is likely that all you have lost is the "fancy" features of the brakes......like ABS and Traction and Stability control.

    Disconnecting the 12 V battery for a few minutes probably will reset the fault to see if it comes back again.
     
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    Disconnecting the 12 V battery will not reset brake or ABS/VSC/TRAC DTCs. You need to repair the problem and then clear with a code reader.
     
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    Check. Thank you.