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2010 Prius: Headgasket issue - should I fix it or get engine replaced

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by BenAda, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. BenAda

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    Hello,
    I was told by my local Toyota dealer that my 2010 Prius has a head gasket failure and quoted me $3,200 to fix it. Because of the high price I decided to see if I could find a mechanic who would replace the engine.
    But so far, most of them have declined to fix the Prius. The only one I found willing to do it in San Jose, California is quoting me $6000 (or $3600 if I bring the engine myself).

    What would you advise I do? Is there a chance that I could find a good mechanic around the Bay Area who would be able to replace the engine at a way cheaper price? Or should I just do the head gasket fix with an independent shop for about $2700? Or just buy another used car? I live near Stockton, California

    Thanks,
     
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    You should contact luscious garage in San Francisco area and ask for another engine
     
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    Welcome to Prius Chat (y)!

    How many miles on your Prius? Is the coolant level dropping? Are you getting misfire codes? What does to oil smell and look like? Is your Prius consuming oil? Did you get a second opinion from another dealer?

    Another option is Arts Automotive in Berkeley, or Toyo of Stockton.

    Keep us posted (y).
     
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    Thank you for your responses.

    The mileage on the Prius is about 177,000. When I did my regular maintenance early this year, I was told that the washer reservoir tank is broken and in fact that liquid leaks. I think coolant level looks normal.

    Initially, the car would vibrate when I was about 20 miles in my commute drive in the mornings. Then it became more intense and happens whenever I start the car. Eventually, I got the Check Engine Light and I took it to a local mechanic, who only changed the spark plugs and we thought things were back to normal for a few days but the vibration returned and upon second diagnostic check, I was told the head gasket is the problem. This was also confirmed by my Toyota dealership so that's the second opinion.

    And yes, the Prius is consuming more engine oil since about a year ago. I just notice that the engine oil no longer lasts for the 5,000 mile maintenance period and I always have to top-up the engine more oil (0W-20).

    I tried calling Toyo of Stockton but no one picked up. I read somewhere that the shop may be permanently closed. But I'll call Luscious and Arts and see what they tell me.
     
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    Hello folks,
    I just called both Auto repair shops. The one in San Francisco quoted me about $5000 while the other wouldn't even change it for first time customers.

    I guess I'm out of options hunh?
     
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    is it worth sinking a lot of money into it at this point?
     
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    $5000 for a used engine from Luscious Garage? Wow these things are worth a fortune.
     
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    My hybrid shop (Hybrid 911 in SoCal) quoted me $2200 for low mileage engine installed
     
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    That's easier to swallow
     
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    How I wish I could get my Prius there..
     
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    extracting the engine is similar, you got a good deal.
     
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    That's unfortunate :(.

    But if the coolant is stable and no odor to the oil, has the intake manifold, egr system been inspected or cleaned?

    You might still be in that space. We're having a meetup in Lafayette tomorrow if you want to make a trip out and we could look at it.

    PM me if you want and we'll see what we can do(y).
     
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    How can I tell for sure if the coolant stable and there's no odor to the oil? Either way, I would be glad to come to Lafayette tomorrow if you'd be available to take a look.

    As an update for anyone interested. I did call Hybrid 911 and I was quoted $2000 to rebuild the engine and $3500 to replace my engine with a low-mileage one (plus water pump). All with 1 year warranty.
     
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    That's interesting. I'd almost think rebuild would be more? Maybe they're cutting corners? Demand to pay more, lol.

    Coolant check is just watching level in the reservoir, if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    If the headgasket is the issue, the oil will be milky and the coolant in the reservoir will be lower than usual.
     
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    I had already been told by a Toyota dealer that the head-gasket is the issue some few days ago. I will check the coolant levels..
     
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    If you mark the coolant level and drive for a period of time, does it drop? Does the oil look milky or opaque? We'll have a couple of Prii there, so a smell test should be pretty easy to conduct.

    Mark the coolant today and we'll see if it has moved tomorrow.
     
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    If its a headgasket issue, don't drive it, or else you will do further damage to your engine and other components.
     
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    Thank you for your suggestion. I desire to have the engine replaced since the costs of fixing the headgasket is not too far from changing the engine itself.
     
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    Thanks for your comment. I looked this morning and yes, the coolant in the reservoir is low. But the oil doesn't appear to be milky (I checked using the dip-stick).