I've poked around here at some of the technical info, but am still curious. Since Toyota makes so many hybrid vehicles, from sub-compacts to sedans to CUVs and SUVs, how many different drives do they make? I ASSume that a C doesn't need the same driveline as a Camry. Yes, the ICE would be different, but what about the hybrid components? Any ideas out there?
I think they are the same, of the same generation, but in various sizes. Although, they added a one way clutch to prime, which I believe is unique.
Wikipedia has most of the different variations described although it is getting out of date. The larger vehicles have more complex arrangements than the Prius because the simple one with a single PSD has a limited speed range. Hybrid Synergy Drive - Wikipedia kevin
I thought I remember hearing when the C came out it used the same size engine as the Gen.2 Prius? Is that still true?
Here's the hybrid-specific gearboxes that I'm aware of existing, produced by either Toyota or Aisin, using Toyota nomenclature when available, and current production gearboxes are bold: P110: Gen "0" Prius (Gen 1 pre-refresh, Japan only) P111: Gen 1 Prius (post-refresh) P112: Gen 2 Prius P210: Gen 1 Estima Hybrid (true CVT, not a power split device - they didn't think a power split device would work well in a van at first) P310: RX 400h, 2010 and older Highlander Hybrid P311: All Camry Hybrids before 2018, Gen 2 Estima Hybrid, HS 250h, Sai, ES 300h, Avalon Hybrid, Alphard/Vellfire Hybrid P312: Nissan Altima Hybrid (no, really) P313: 2010+ RX 450h, 2011+ Highlander Hybrid P314: NX 300h, RAV4 P410: Gen 3 Prius, Prius v/a/+, CT 200h, Auris Hybrid, Noah/Voxy/Esquire Hybrid, Mazda Axela (aka Mazda3) Hybrid P510: Aqua/Prius c, Yaris/Vitz Hybrid, Sienta Hybrid P610: Gen 4 Prius, C-HR Hybrid P710: 2018+ Camry Hybrid L110: GS 450h, Crown Hybrid models L110F: LS 600h (just adds AWD) L210: IS 300h, RC 300h, GS 300h L310: LC 500h, coming LS 500h (may be called L310F in that application) Aisin HD-10: Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner Hybrid Aisin HD-20: Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute/Mercury Mariner Hybrid, Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan/Lincoln MKZ Hybrid Also worth noting that the Mirai's motor/transmission is essentially a derivative of the P310/P313, but without the power split device or MG1.
Out of curiosity what code does the Mirai transaxle have? Q312? also was a Mirai ever torn down by one of the popular channels? thanx
As I mentioned in the other thread, it’s a Q410. The New Car Features book (more info) for the Mirai has some diagrams and basic information. I haven’t seen anything like that. Toyota has released some videos of the production process, though.
Might be better to say "belt CVT". There's nothing any more or less "true" about using a belt to achieve Continuously Variable Transmission than using planets, motors, and switches to accomplish the same task.
