Florida adopted the California Emmisions in 2009. It was my understanding that all such states extended the warranty on hybrid batteries to 10 years/150,000 miles. However, Toyota caps the warranty in Florida at 8 years/100,000 miles. Can anyone explain this? Did Florida modify the California emmissions standard to make an exception to the rule on hybrid battery warranties?
Florida may have adopted some of the California's laws. That does not mean that they adopted all of their laws. Why would emissions laws govern battery warranties?
The Governor issued an executive order in 2007, but it was never passed into law. Sorry. Florida | State and Local Climate and Energy Program | US EPA Flsenate Archive: Session > Bills
The hybrid system, including batteries, is considered part of the emissions control, which California requires to have the long warranty.
I've Googled the subject and many sources confirm that Florida has adopted CARB. There is no mention of any exceptions that I can find. It would be startling to me if Toyota missed that, but they have been limiting hybrid battery warranties to 8 years and 100,000 miles until now. I know that Toyota monitors Prius Chat. Maybe we'll hear from them on this subject.
One lady from American Toyota's marketing department used to visit Prius Chat, she is on maternity leave. No one even vaguely aware of CARB regulations.
Erica is actually back as of last Tuesday, but it's impossible to say if anything here reaches Toyota's ears, as there's almost no feedback from Team Prius.
...I have asked before, if anyone from Toyota is reading this, please send me a PM!!! So far no PM's to me from Toyota!!! This site is not really intended for giving feedback to Toyota. If it was, we could have a liaison and ask questions from time to time. Rather what has worked is sending a personal letter to Toyota USA and if you get an answer, sometimes folks post the Toyota response here. What I do, and you FL guys can do, is easily look up via Google the Toyota Hybrid warranty and don't stop there, I also like to look at FORD CMAX hybrid, GM Volt and other company warranties to see how they compare for hybrids. I am quite sure Florida is not listed in Toyota CARB coverage, and I don't recall seeing it in FORD either, but somebody check me.
An old thread and a new answer. Florida repealed the adoption on 2/16/2012. Just in time for Prius C . 8 years it is then. The new question is however concerns cars moved from Florida into California and "converted" into compliance with CARB?
No one can find any evidence that FL ever was a CARB state; but if it was, then only two facts seem to apply. When the car was initially purchased, it was purchased in a CARB state at the time. It is currently registered in a CARB state. That is it. The 2014 list of CARB States in the US | PriusChat
I did find the state register of the law and it was enacted in 2009 and later repealed in 2012. 62-285.400 : Adoption of California Motor Vehicle Emission Standards (Repealed) - Florida Administrative Rules, Law, Code, Register - FAC, FAR, eRulemaking
I think that is a complicated answer depending on model year - Toyota's intent is NOT to cover cars registered in non-CARB states. But going back to 2006 the Toyota warranty guide did not say that exactly, leaving some room for legal challenge. I would think by the time Prius c came out (2012) the warranty guide was a little more clearly written. The true generic answer is that Toyota elects to handle these issues on a case by case basis. So you must contact Toyota USA for a ruling, upon failure, and often Toyota gives consideration of factors and give discount. My thought is FL was never CARB, although yes they got close. Nonetheless, CA Prii tend to get taken care of well by Toyota in CA, so I would be optimistic for favorable ruling.
