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Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by James2012, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. inferno

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  2. huskers

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    That option is only available in the Advanced.
     
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    Today is Sat....OP posted on Thurs?

    I guess the car is still in repair.

    FWIW
    I would repair the door and rocker; not replacing those parts.
    The fender, yes I can see replacing that part.
    Hub cap off course replace, and make sure it has the same color hue as the other caps.

    Color match, paint lines, undercarriage overspray are the issues to me.
    OP resolved the Car Fax et al reporting... that is good... yet still does not eliminate ethical disclosure to a potential buyer.

    With all that said.....good luck and let us know the end result.
     
  4. Mendel Leisk

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    ^ Completely agree.

    That is "two strikes": first they damage your car while in their care, then they attempt to lead you down the garden path, insisting they will fix it right, no need to go elsewhere, no need to alert the authorities, the dreaded Carfax? This is a fear-based scam.

    There is no reason you need to use the dealership to do the repair. File a claim with your insurer, explain what happened, use the body shop of your choice. The loaner car (if needed, this looks like a one day thing) should be through the body shop or insurer. Cut the dealership out of the repair, the only thing they should be doing is paying the insurance deductible.
     
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  5. James2012

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    So............... I was told last Thursday that the car was ready. They installed tint for me for free for my trouble.

    I check everything:

    Paint looks good... I swear that I can tell the difference (very slightly dark) only because I'm looking out for it, otherwise even I have to admit that I wouldn't be able to tell if I didn't look out for it.

    Parts - replaced all parts, including new rim, tire, hubcap. Unfortunately, the rocker panel is loose. I also notice a rock chip on my hood. The manager apologizes and has it sent back to the body shop.

    So........... Today, I'm told that it's back and it's perfect. The rock chip, they tried to paint but it made things look worse because it brought more attention to it so they removed the touch-up. Whatever. I go there to pick it up tonight... and the rocker panel is still slightly loose. Ok... I tell the worker to note it and that I'll deal with the manager tomorrow. I walk around the car. There's surface scratches all around the rock chip now. Furthermore, I notice some dirt (they washed it). I try to wipe it and it feels rough..... you got it... overspray on the OTHER side of the car... Wth. Now my front bumper near the driver's side tire and the rear panel near the rear tire has overspray. At the urging of the night manager, I left it so that the service manager can deal with it in the morning.

    At this point... It's getting worse each time it gets sent back to that body shop.
     
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    this is so typical of a dealership, trying to half a$$ a free repair to save money. sorry to hear it.
     
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    Document everything and take pics. Sounds like you are going to need them.
     
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    OP sorry to read the repair did not emulate pre-accident condition.
    Good body shops can be expensive and overspray is a know issue that expensive shops tend to prevent.

    Color matches....solid black paint for the win!
    I purposely bought Toasted Walnut Pearl Mica...so what to I know haha.

    Loose panels...that's just unbelievable, reflecting on a 'piss-poor' shop I'd have to say.

    Many good points in other threads above, none the least document.
    Can you consider trading in with a 'deal' from this dealer?
    Or and/ or research diminished value and hire a firm @$400.

    Anyway good luck
     
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    Should you need it, I saved the direct line Toyota Customer Service number that someone posted if you're having issues at the service department which I can share.

    This is my worry with the dealership that I bought my car from. While the managers care, this care does not trickle down to the rest of the staff who just do the minimum without care to check you off their list and turn over their to-do's!
     
  10. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Is the car at a Toyota Certified Collision Center? Did they take it to Maaco or Earl Scheib?

    If that was my car I'd be on the ugly side of annoyed. The bottom line is that I expect the car to be returned to me in the same condition as I delivered it to the Service Dept.

    There's no excuse for not matching the paint. Sounds like the hood now has to be sanded and repainted (but I'm not a professional). Someone who knows what he's doing needs to detail the car to remove all of the overspray.

    If the employee hit the car hard enough that a rocker panel can't be attached properly then perhaps it is time to talk to the Service Manager/General Manager/Owner about buying the car or filing a claim with your insurance company and taking it to another shop.
     
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    So... I went back to the dealership. More bad news:

    I found more spots with overspray. I wondered why would my car be exposed to overspray if they had painted separate panels and reattached them to the car. This caused me to be even more suspicious.

    I also looked at the rocker panel more closely in the sunlight. I noticed that the molded edge around panel and rocker is gone... all smooth. It was a clear sign to me that this was actually because they FIXED the areas with body fillers/etc. - not REPLACED the parts as originally agreed. This explains why the part aren't fitting right, etc.

    I called him out and he confirmed my suspicion. To further ADD insult to injury: the ENTIRE passenger side door bottom has actual paint overspray, leaving the entire lower surface dull and "bumpy."

    This is the actual service manager that I'm dealing with. I told him that my desire is for them to replace my damaged car. He said that's never on the table. I responded, "you also said nothing like this EVER happened before,
     
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    So what recourse do you have? They basically just ruined your car on multiple levels...I have that number if you want to call Toyota Corporate to fix this for you!
     
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    You should PM @Prius Team to see if they can give you some direction on how to get this resolved within Toyota. They are the Toyota US Prius marketing team.
     
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    I feel your pain! I had a new Subaru for 7 months before it was damaged by hail. I knew, before I even scheduled the repair, my car would never be the same again. Sure enough, overspray, paint mismatch, door jambs looked horrible and were very sharp. It began leaking water inside from the door shell they replaced. Sorry for your experience with this repair. Hopefully you will have a better resolution than I did.
     
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    Update:
    The owner of the body shop contacted me and apologized for the issues and assured me that everything will be corrected.

    I also had a lengthy discussion with the service manager. Basically, I told him that I was repeatedly hoodwinked and I'm not happy about it. I didn't get the fix that I was promised and the issues became worse each visit. I came in with basically a new, problem-free Prime... and I'm leaving with something substantially less. Also, I discussed that the requirement for disclosure of damage has also reduced the resale value of my vehicle: Vehicle Code 9990

    He totally blew off the idea of an exchange into a new one - unless I somehow trade it in (meaning... I pay!). He said that it's industry standard to fix the body the way it was fixed and I reminded him that I was assured that the panels would be REPLACED (not repaired) and I would leave as if the accident never happened (minus, of course the paint job required). I'm pretty disappointed and saddened by this...

    He assured me that he would put together a customer care package to take care of me for everything I went through - whatever that means.

    What is everyone's opinion and personal experience when reaching out to their corporate or the marketing team? I want to be prepared to take it to that level if I'm not satisfied with their end result.

    I'm also wondering if filing an insurance claim and letting the insurance fix it "right" and the insurance company going after the dealership to recoup the cost is also an option. As the vehicle is under 20k, my insurance requires OEM parts as part of the repair process so I'm sure it could potentially cost thousands.

    Thank you everyone for the good words and the moral support.
     
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    He doesn't need to deliver some crap "customer care package". He needs to deliver the car restored to its original condition. (However, I would not refuse some crap "customer care package" in addition to the restored car.)

    We still don't know the identity of the body shop. If it isn't a Toyota Certified Collision Center I wouldn't expect much help from Toyota.

    Since the car hasn't been repaired according to the work order maybe it is time to talk with a lawyer or some state or county consumer affairs office.

    The "Contacting Toyota Corporate" card should be played now, not at the end. You want/need them to positively influence the outcome now, not clean up a bigger mess later.

    I have no experience with Toyota Corporate. I have not had any bad experiences with a Toyota Certified Collision Center so I can't suggest specific actions.
     
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    I would file a complaint to Toyota Corporate regardless so it's on their record. Who cares what BS he's feeding you at this point as now you've given them multiple chances and have FAILED every time. There is no longer any good faith so I say go after them where it hurts because again they pretty much ruined your near pristine car, continually degraded its value while also blatantly lying to you each and every time.
     
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    Does your state have a consumer protection department? Perhaps you should contact them or the state department that licenses the dealer to sell and service vehicles.
     
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    of course had he not been driving so fast he would not have been in that position.
     
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    wow what a nightmare! Any update?