Gen 4, a disappointment?

interesting. i'll look at the plug in to see what they've done with the prime. i feel the same way, if americans were making any decent plug ins, i'd take a look. all the best!

 

When you add all the features the Prius has to the Ioniq, the UK prices are almost the same.

 

I can honestly say that my fourth generation Prius is the best car I've ever owned. and i've owned quite a few vehicles. Absolutely zero complaints or issues since I made the purchase 15 months ago. very simple to operate, I just drive and watch the MPG's pile up.

 

"I want a sunroof!"

I've got the moonroof (in the US).

"- Gadgets, I really, really expected more..."

Which gadgets are you looking for?

About the only thing that I find lacking is the connectivity from the infotainment system - to a phone in the form of CarPlay or Android Auto and (at least for the hybrid) model some form of cellular connection for navigation system status.

kevin

 

+1

 

you were fortunate to miss the airbag recall. and the parking brake.

 

I think the airbag recall covered the vast majority of manufacturers.

 

That was a different air bag recall than the one for Prius.

 

I did receive the recall notice for the parking brake and passenger airbag. But they do not lessen my enthusiasm for the Prius. My parking brake works fine, and I would (hopefully ) never exit the vehicle with it left in the drive mode or the power on. But the airbag is a matter that should be addressed.

 

understood. it's a great car, and i would be happy to own one. but they are issues, as i understand it.

 

I agree with you I just trade in my 2015 3rd gen Prius yesterday with a Prius 4 touring the drive is really different I drove my 3rd gen 2015 for 2yrs with 66,000 miles so I really am familiar with the 3rd gen ride, really enjoy the 4 touring ride and the safety features is so amazing, adaptive cruise control superb, hill assist omg I live in bay area San Francisco the hill assist is really awesome now I don't need to use the foot brake when going uphill, I really hate the design of this fourth gen but the safety feature is what sold me and back legroom is bigger. You have to drive this car to see the big upgrade not looking for what you don't like with regards to just look, bay area mpg on my 3rd gen for me it's hard to get 45mpg I usually get 38-41 mpg on my 2015 3rd gen, same ride and driving style today with the 4th gen I got 52mpg and can't believe I can use EV even 50-75mph and it still can full the car a little bit but very slowly on the freeway.

 

It probably varies by market, but we just saw a top of the line Ioniq at our local (New Mexico, USA) auto show, and my wife was unimpressed by the cheap materials and generally poorer fit and finish compared to her Gen4 Prius Three w/ATP, especially for about the same price (all those separate options add up, and the lack of a clear price advantage is huge when you consider that the main appeal of the Ioniq's P2 hybrid drivetrain is lower manufacturing costs). She's never been particularly fond of the self-consciously weird Prius interior aesthetic, but still preferred it to the Ioniq's more conventional setup because of the look and feel of controls and materials. I'll confess we didn't drive it, but reviews here have not found the U.S. Ioniq noticeably more satisfying to drive than our Gen4 Prius. I'm glad to see more alternatives in the market, and I find the Ioniq and Niro the first genuine alternatives for Prius and RAV4 Hybrid buyers (assuming you don't need AWD), with other hybrids either being dramatically lower MPG, lower utility, or both. That said, nothing we saw evoked the buyer's remorse you're reporting here. The Prius Three is just a nicer car than the Ioniq, however much the Ioniq is loaded up w/goodies - and we have a spare tire

As noted above, I think this is true. It's not a bad car by any means, and I think right now it's the only genuine Prius alternative. Nothing else I've seen comes close, so in that context "me too" isn't necessarily a bad thing. Also worth mentioning - the Ioniq's styling is both attractive and much more conventional than the Prius, which may be an important factor for many buyers.

 

The other thing to consider - IONIQ will be new to the market, and while I don't doubt the battery longevity will be similar, the PRIUS Hybrid Synergy Drive is well proven to be very robust. That's something we still need to observe on IONIQ - how will the DualClutch drive train stand up (bearing in mind the problems VW (from BorgWarner design) and FORD (from Gertrag design) have had with Dual Clutch), though it seems that Hyundai make their own Dual Clutch transmissions.

 

The Ioniq comes with a lifetime battery warranty, but I'd be leery of overall reliability, too.

 

The minor annoyances (issues?) mentioned in this long discussion have not raised any concern with me whatsoever. Frankly, I have yet to notice or find any bothersome flaws, or anything annoying that would cause me to have regrets. Perhaps I am just very easy to please. I've been scanning these forums for months and making mental notes of the various complaints with regards to the fourth generation Prius. All I can say, is I am very pleased and satisfied with my purchase of the 2016 model.

 

same thing happened with my pip. lots of different complaints, but i never had any.
some people start a thread if they hear the slightest disconcerting sound.

 

and why stairways have "Handrails" .....

 

Yes, Hyundai owns a lot of Kia - WIKI says 34% as at a couple of years ago. Many of their models are shared to some extent - going back 10+ years, they were very similar, but now they more share platforms and components.

But to make it more confusing, Kia Motors is a part owner of a number of Hyundai subsidiaries.

 

I wonder how long "LIFETIME" really is? There has been much ado about TOM TOM's Sat Nav's Lifetime maps - which seemingly expires after about either 3 or 4 years - seemingly dependent on luck. TOM TOM has defined LIFETIME as "... the useful life of the device, which is the period of time that TomTom continues to support your device ...".