1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Low Rolling Resistance replacement tires: Current List

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by F8L, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,242
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    I put about 40 kms on brand new 195/65R15 Michelin Defender XT this morning, driving our son's Civic Hybrid out to the airport. They seemed to roll easy, felt sure and solid.

    Our son and duaghter-in-law invariably hand the car over to me with displayed fuel economy around 8 liter/100 km (30 mpg). I'd tanked up and reset the trip meter, a few days earliers, and by the time I got out to the airport I had it at 5.7 (41 mpg).

    I expect they'll run it back up again, but I'll ask my son what he thinks of them, feel, rolling resistance, mpg and whatever, over the next few weeks.
     
  2. PimpUigi

    PimpUigi New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2017
    2
    0
    0
    Location:
    Philadelphia
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    It seems Michelin doesn't make the Energy Saver A/S anymore. According to the place I went to get tires today. They tried to call Michelin and ask, and that's what Michelin told them on speaker phone.

    I don't know for sure yet, but that's so weird. Wondering what will be the best tires to get from now on.
     
  3. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,033
    3,241
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Fill in the info and see what Michelin recommends.
    Michelin Tire Selector | Find car tires by vehicle, size, season, vehicle category, driving experience or tire family
     
  4. roadrunner

    roadrunner His (blue) and hers (black).

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2008
    61
    36
    0
    Location:
    Perkasie, Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius c
    Model:
    One
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  5. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,242
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    A real mix of opinions.
     
  6. harrysprius

    harrysprius Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2017
    277
    126
    0
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Like some other things, everyone has one.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  7. harrysprius

    harrysprius Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2017
    277
    126
    0
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    I really like the Ecopia. I have them on my other cars. I think that's what I'll go with when the ones on it wear out.
     
  8. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,242
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    @bisco has the energy saver a/s, and is happy with them I think. I've had Ecopia EP20: impressed with their mpg, but the did get noisy as they wear. Other'n that no problems. Well except don't even think about snow driving, when they're worn.
     
    bisco likes this.
  9. harrysprius

    harrysprius Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2017
    277
    126
    0
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    I'll never have to worry about that. I drive on the highway to much to be worried about them. When they start to get low, they get changed. It helps that the company I work for is owned by a tire company. Employee discount helps a lot. I'm not planning on driving in the snow either.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  10. Salamander_King

    Salamander_King Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2015
    10,985
    8,886
    0
    Location:
    New England
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I had mixed set of Ecopia E20 (OEM) and Ecopia 422 Plus after I had unrepairable flat on stock E20 early in my Prius ownership. I was happy with great mpg from those tires, but were not happy with their handling on snow at all. After 2 years, two OEM E20 were worn down, needing replacement. Two newer Ecopia 422 plus were also worn quite bit after only a year. Last fall, I purchased set of 4 Xice3 for winter, and rather than buying two new tires in spring to replace worn out E20, I purchased a set of 4 Conti Truecontact. I am very happy with both of those LRR tires. Both tires had mpg slightly worse (2-3mpg on average) than Ecopia in winter and summer, but they are better traction and ride. I will see how tread life are going to be on them.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  11. vinnie97

    vinnie97 Whatever Works

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2010
    1,430
    277
    0
    Location:
    Somewhere out there
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    I've got the Energy Savers as well. I've put over 30k on them, and I'm sure they can go another 30k easy. I can't say the same for the crappy OEMs (which were threadbare by 30k). I think they were Bridgestone (dumped them in January 2015 for these). I don't do any snow driving in my local clime, so I couldn't tell you how they handle in ice conditions (there is rarely snowfall, and I remember them sliding on ice on my inclined driveway...which tires wouldn't?! ;)). It sounds like the two most popular here are Bridgestone Ecopias (though with some manufacturing locale caveats?) and Michelin E/S. Might have to try the former on the next go around and test the earlier claim about an mpg bump.
     
    #1331 vinnie97, Jul 20, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2017
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  12. Kurt Weiske

    Kurt Weiske Active Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2014
    178
    131
    1
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Plug-in Base

    That's unfortunate. I'm at 30,000 miles on mine and still have 8/32" of tread left. I may go to a true LRR tire again, but the performance has been great. It seems like after 20K miles or so I started getting some of the 3 mpg mileage hit back, now I'm getting 47-49 mpg on just gas instead of 48-50.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  13. PriusNeckBeard

    PriusNeckBeard Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2016
    376
    211
    0
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius
    Model:
    One
    Soo....How'd it go ?
     
  14. PutPutMobile

    PutPutMobile Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2017
    292
    518
    2
    Location:
    Buena Park, CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    I have these non brand Jinyu tires that came with my rims.... averaging about 42 mpg.. Shopping around for new tires within these 2 months before the other 2 pairs wear out. Which LRR tires are good for gas saving for all season?
     
  15. Chris_D

    Chris_D Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2017
    10
    5
    0
    Location:
    Toronto,Ontario,Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    Touring
    Has anyone tried the EnergySaver non A/S?
    I have the A/S version and they're good,So good in fact that i get 58+ mpg with them.....wondering if I switch from 17" with A/S to 16" non A/S would bring even better mpg....oh for winter I'm gonna use the Xice3,they're to only ones that I found with the green x tech,so I'm not worried about snow/slush/ice,in Toronto , Canada I prefer to be safe rather than sorry,when it snows....it snows...and we do get severe ice storms a few times per season,not gonna risk it with all seasons or all weather's for that matter.
     
  16. Chris_D

    Chris_D Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2017
    10
    5
    0
    Location:
    Toronto,Ontario,Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    Touring
    Michelin Energy Saver A/S = The ultimate in mpg, good wear but lacking in performance. Good wet braking. not great in snow. Low noise and comfortable. The hypermilers dream tire! My personal favorite!

    What about the non A/S version? The summer grand touring tire?
    Is that worse or better than the A/S?
    They seem to be lighter as per weight chart from Michelin itself.
     
  17. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,242
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Are you able to find them? That might lead to issues if you have to replace one, and/or you'll end up getting really old stock. Even the A/s iteration: Costco for one seems to always be out of them, at least in metro Vancouver.

    Good to hear a report on the A/S by the way. Still, IF I can ever convince the missus the 15" PIP rims I snagged look semi-presentable, I'm probably going to go with Defender XT, just a Goldilocks tire. And if I continue to be shot down, I guess it's Primacy in 17".
     
  18. Chris_D

    Chris_D Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2017
    10
    5
    0
    Location:
    Toronto,Ontario,Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    Touring
    Yes I managed to track them down,from a local supplier here in Toronto.
    Size is gonna be 205/60/16....good question about the stock year....truth be told I haven't thought about that! Yikes!!
    Thanks for that,I'll have to check....does anyone known how to check year of manufacturing?
    Oh and I'm planning to put 4 of them,on brand new light weight 16" wheels from kosei,only weigh 12.4lbs each...also from same dealer and they came out to be waaay cheaper than ordering from tire rack USA,with shipping and taxes,about 3-400 cheaper.
     
  19. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,708
    39,242
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Just google. There's a 4 number code on every tire, in a sort of oblong field: two numbers are the week (1 thru 52) and two are the the last two digits of the year. Read up, take a look at the ones you've got now, to see how it works.
     
    harrysprius likes this.
  20. harrysprius

    harrysprius Active Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2017
    277
    126
    0
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Chris,

    In the DOT code on the side of the tire the last four digits should be numbers. They correspond to the week and year of manufacture.
    For example:

    0117 would be the 01 week of 2017.
    2216 would be the 22 week of 2016.

    How long tires are good for is an arguable point, and how they are stored has a lot to do with it. A general rule is a new tire shouldn't be more than 5 years old, and tires shouldn't be on a vehicle after 7. Again, that's just a general guideline.
     
    Mendel Leisk likes this.