Featured Dashboard summary March 2017

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Once again, thanks to Jeff Cobb's team: March 2017 Dashboard

    Model 03/15/17 02/15/17 01/15/17 12/15/16
    1 Fusion Hybrid 5865 4939 4856 3577
    2 Prius Liftback 5798 5418 4553 7786
    3 Transit Diesel* 4258 3621 2720 4570
    4 RAV4 3497 3080 2898 4773
    5 Model S* 3100 1700 1200 5300
    6 Niro Hybrid 2704 2143
    7 Model X* 2500 800 1000 3300
    8 Volt 2132 1820 1611 3691
    9 Accord Hybrid 1843 1867 1711 3124
    10 Camry Hybrid 1658 1333 1238 2181
    11 Prius Prime 1618 1362 1366 1641
    12 Highlander Hybrid 1587 1339 571 1018
    13 Leaf 1478 1037 772 1899
    14 Prius c 1385 1372 1143 1644
    15 Sonata 1082 1471 1113 1374
    16 Fusion Energi 1002 837 606 1099
    17 Bolt 978 952 1162 579
    18 Prius v 960 892 767 1373
    19 CT200h 841 458 393 968
    20 Colorado Diesel 722 663 490 909
    21 RX 400 / 450 h 713 507 443 985
    22 i3* 703 318 382 791
    23 C-Max Hybrid 671 676 473 895
    24 C-Max Energi 662 639 473 1289
    25 MKZ 605 570 467 667
    26 Avalon Hybrid 530 464 448 1026
    27 ES Hybrid 448 330 242 734
    28 500e* 418 283 305 353
    29 A3 Plug In 414 400 387 589
    30 Focus EV 407 228 56 101
    31 XE 398 89 53 117
    32 X5 397 275 262 569
    33 Range Rover Sport 397 324 338 369
    34 Malibu Hybrid 372 534 339 790
    35 3-Series Plug in 365 144 129 240
    36 Range Rover 342 275 239 192
    37 e-Golf 342 293 332 443
    38 F-Pace 336 290 321 467
    39 Ioniq Hybrid 327 1
    40 Canyon Diesel 291 348 229 500
    41 NX Hybrid 276 184 179 362
    42 Sonata Plug In* 275 250 150 250
    43 X5 Diesel 271 154 26 14
    44 Optima Hybrid 245 257 279 397
    45 3-Series Diesel 194 85 91 153
    46 Soul EV 171 152 117 197
    47 Q50 Hybrid 152 138 128 232
    48 Ram Pickup Diesel* 138 196 300 5693
    49 CR-Z 129 118 89 160
    50 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 126 121 177 152
    51 Mirai 118 110 83 116
    52 Pathfinder Hybrid 104 90 73 94
    53 XC90 Plug In 103 83 96 204
    54 QX60 Hybrid 76 53 44 99
    55 S550 Plug In 60 51 55 71
    56 B-Class Electric 50 56 53 54
    57 i8 49 58 50 133
    58 GLE 550e Hybrid 47 59 52 83
    59 7-Series Plug in 42 35 18 23
    60 Promaster Van Diesel 40 26 34 47
    61 XF 39 35 27
    62 NSX Hybrid 37 46 50 68
    63 Cruze Diesel 33 5 1 2
    64 RLX Hybrid 30 27 11 31
    65 Clarity 23 27
    66 Lacrosse Hybrid 22 12 18 26
    67 C350We Plug-in Hybrid 17 51
    68 Civic Hybrid 15 8 16 12
    69 forTwo EV 13 22 15 40
    70 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 12 6 13 25
    71 Q70 Hybrid 11 4 5 12
    72 Jetta Hybrid 9 12 13 56
    73 E-Class Diesel 6 2 4 3
    74 GS 450h 5 5 6 6
    75 5-Series Diesel 4 13 23 26
    76 i 3 1 3
    77 Panamera S E-Hybrid 3 1 2 3
    78 GLE-Class Diesel 3 2 6 10
    79 GL-Class Diesel 3 3 8 8
    80 X3 Diesel 3 3 16 3
    81 Spark 3 4 4 17
    82 Tucson 2 5 2 1
    83 C-Class Diesel 2 8
    84 Sierra Hybrid 1
    85 Grand Cherokee Diesel 379 346 465
    86 B-Class Electric 1
    87 ELR 3 3
    88 Insight 1 9
    89 LS 600h 2
    90 ML Class Diesel 1


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    • Fusion Hybrid and Prius Liftback - are running neck and neck
    • Model S and Model X - inventory clearance?
    • RAV4 and Niro Hybrid - parallel sales profile
    About two weeks ago, I met the Nashville Tesla team at the high-speed, DC charger with about half a dozen City utility employees. The Tesla CHAdeMO would not connect. So to test the charger, I plugged in using the CSS and everything worked. Then last week, I got some calls from Tesla in Nashville asking if I wanted a 'test drive.' I called them back and let them know I'm a plug-in hybrid owner, quite happy with our BMW i3-REx and Prius Prime.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  2. bisco

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    that says more about the lift back, than it does about the fusion.:cool:

    good month for the prime!(y)
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    How in the world do you recover development/parts-support costs for all the brands/models selling less than a hundred a month?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Tesla doesn't report sales the same way the rest of the market does; They do it quarterly, I believe. Monthly numbers from other sources are best guesses.
     
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    Looks like the Spark EVs are winding down. :D
     
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    only through zev credits, i guess, but idk the details. and maybe they consider it r&d. sergio fiat said they lose money with every sale.
     
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    Development costs and support are not segmented by model. The manufacturer spreads them across all of their models.
    So the high profit trucks help pay for development of low volume cars.

    New tech is expensive, but if companies don't continue research into areas that currently have small profits, they run the risk of being way far behind when the market conditions change.
     
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    re: Fusion success - Is there a "Buy American" trend coming into focus? Not clear, just asking.
     
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    i haven't heard anything, but who knows?
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Mostly good incentives in order to prop up the F150 sales for CAFE.
     
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    Saw my 2nd Bolt in the wild today, this time on the road, not in parking lot. I bet the Model 3 is going to crush Bolt in monthly US sales by early next year.
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Bolt nationwide? Try to find one. Much speculation on the compliance driven nature of their distribution to CA almost entirely.

    A national lease program announced with cash down outside CA around twice what would be needed in CA.
     
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    The Bolt is not nationwide. The scheduled nationwide rollout starts in September.

    Even though MN isn't getting theirs until September, there is a local dealer that bought a CA one and gives test drives with it:)
     
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    there's a bunch here, but we're a carb state. i like the bolt, why so much hate? well done by gm, methinks.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    In no particular order, pre-bankruptcy:
    • GEO Metro - a cabin between two motorcycles with some resemblance to a car
    • Chevette - proof that something shaped like a car could be made from tin cans
    • EV1 - snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
    • Bob Lutz - on any subject including the Prius 2000-2008
    • 'Mild' hybrids - you can pay more but you can't get less
    • Two-mode transmissions - how to make a really heavy, expensive, inefficient transmission
    • "Hybrid" - in body paint, cheaper than making an efficient car
    I've never doubted GM engineering could do great cars. But too often, their engineers have done interesting projects, their training, before they graduate to a real job.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    i always get nervous when i see that you have quoted me.:oops:
     
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    Interesting to see VA on top of the Bolt list.
    I think two reasons alls I can think of:
    (1) close to B'more MD shipping port,
    (2) Wash DC has great incentives but no dealers so VA is DC supplier (in addition to MD)

    Also I guess an MD buyer could come over to VA, unlike Toyota, I am thinking GM would not cancel CARB coverage if you bought in VA...just guessing. I have to check batt warranty CARB v. non-CARB for Bolt.
     
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    Very interesting, Bob. It would also be interesting to see a "Total Hybrid" figure and watch as hybrids/plug-ins/electrics take over the world! My 2ยข
     
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    i hope we live long enough.:unsure:
     
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