Imagine a world where...

I would add that the most effective population control, educating girls, is a world wide goal.

Bob Wilson

 

Bob,
I am hoping I don't understand what you wrote. Are you saying that if girls were more educated ( I assume you mean about sex), then the world would have more effective population control?

Thanks,
rp

 

thank you john lennon. i think we've been imagining for millennia. and even trying hasn't worked that well.

 

I'm remembering studies that educating girls in 3d world countries leads to better family planning. As for educating girls and boys in the USA, it remains a national disgrace.

Bob Wilson

 

i thought family planning was going pretty well here?

 

IMHO, we could do better to reduce the rates of STDs and unplanned pregnancy:

• https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/factsheets/std-trends-508.pdf
• Unintended Pregnancy Prevention | Unintended Pregnancy | Reproductive Health | CDC

Bob Wilson

 

Bob,
Originally it came across as the girls fault, but I of course understand that the internet has no tone and can be easily misinterpreted. From the sound of it you believe it is a universal education failure, rather than one gender's sole responsibility. If that is the case, I agree with you.

rp

 

Ignorance is the problem but it is amplified with girls. Teach them to read and they can learn how to better manage child raising and even teach their kids to read. Husbands tend to be less reliable in both areas.

Bob Wilson

 

Is it really ignorance, or rather lack of access to education? I don't think women/girls in general are less smart. I think there are a lot of countries that treat women/girls as lesser than, therefore they are less educated.

 

Any Education, not sex education specifically.

Female Education and Childbearing: A Closer Look at the Data | Investing in Health

 

Good article Jimbo. I agree with it. My issue is an implication that women are ignorant or responsible for the overpopulation of the world. I think that theory is too simple and essentially blame-shifting.

rp

 

Once you have marketable skills, the opportunity cost of 9 months of pregnancy and 18 years of child rearing is high.
Even in first world countries females earn less than males due to child rearing and pregnancy, even in countries with equal pay for equal work.

 

No one here is blaming a girl for being uneducated. This usually is due to externals. Just we know female education is one of the best ways to get a handle on family planning. Without trying to drag this thread to Fred's House of Politics, it is why 'abstinence education' too often looks like a cruel scheme to increase teenage pregnancy for example: Abstinence Advocate Bristol Palin Announces Second Unplanned Pregnancy | Vanity Fair

My late father was a family physician and had a patient come in complaining of abdominal pain . . . she was in labor. Not understanding how she could be pregnant, he had to use some Anglo Saxon vocabulary to explain how it happens. It still happens today!

There is a correlation between financial and intellectual poverty and unplanned pregnancy: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/clips/2008/10/30/RedTNYORKER.pdf

Bob Wilson

 

the stork came to her address by mistake because he was using toyota gps?

 

Bisco, funny!

Bob,
I agree with education. I just don't want to hear it is the woman's fault for the world's population. I assume that is not what you are implying. As we all know it takes two to tango and honestly I have met many more stupid men than women (see Darwin awards as exhibit A).

rp

 

The article I linked does not blame women, it just points out there is a higher correlation to women's education that to men's. Both lower the birth rate, but educating women is more effective.

 

i think we do agree, but one of us hasn't stated her case clearly.