1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Toyota AC Outlet Supply Accessory (Not charging cable)

Discussion in 'Prime Accessories and Modifications' started by bowang, Feb 17, 2017.

Page 1 of 5
  1. bowang

    bowang Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    45
    37
    5
    It's not news that prius is capable of providing power during utility outage.
    Draw current from the 8.8kw to supply appliance for emergency use is very practical.
    This accessory from Toyota seems will do the job without modifying.
    One end plug in to prime's J1772, the other end can supply 120V.
    But does this accessory work with any prime?

    [​IMG]
     
    #1 bowang, Feb 17, 2017
    Wattup likes this.
  2. Bluegrassman

    Bluegrassman Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2016
    229
    185
    0
    Location:
    US
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Toyota part #??

    Overnight Prius Addict
    2009 Prius 4 Black
    2012 Prius 4 Blizzard Pearl
    2013 Prius 4 Black
     
    #2 Bluegrassman, Feb 17, 2017
    ruby and priuscatprimeguy like this.
  3. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,024
    16,243
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    In theory, yes (unless there is software within the Prime that is locked out).

    That accessory will step down to 100V though so you may need a converter (like the ones you bring when you travel to Japan).
     
    #3 Tideland Prius, Feb 18, 2017
    bowang likes this.
  4. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,449
    11,762
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    It is a Japan only accessory, and from promo pictures, it is intended for powering your teapot on picnics.

    Home emergency power from the car is done by a specialized EVSE in Japan. It requires the car to have a CHAdeMO outlet.

    Outside of Japan, installing an inverter is still the best option.
     
    #4 Trollbait, Feb 18, 2017
    Bluegrassman and bowang like this.
  5. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2009
    5,850
    4,028
    0
    Location:
    Westminster, Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Advanced
    The problem is, I can't find anywhere what current the 12V system is capable of supplying. It is 100A on my 2004, but I can't find it on the Prime.
     
    #5 Lee Jay, Feb 18, 2017
  6. Civic4982

    Civic4982 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2014
    46
    40
    0
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    That's really cool! I want.


    iPhone ?
     
    #6 Civic4982, Feb 18, 2017
  7. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,144
    50,053
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i thought it plugged into a second port in japan, which is blocked in the u.s.?
     
    #7 bisco, Feb 18, 2017
  8. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,449
    11,762
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    I think the one in the op plugs into the J1772 outlet. I don't think it can supply more than what a small inverter could do.

    The second port on the Prime is for CHAdeMO, and that is needed to have the car supply power to the whole home in Japan. There you can get an EVSE/power station that charges the car through the CHAdeMO outlet, and acts as the inverter for supplying power to the home during an outage.
     
    #8 Trollbait, Feb 18, 2017
    priuscatprimeguy and Bluegrassman like this.
  9. bowang

    bowang Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    45
    37
    5
    Found a webpage from toyota.jp.
    It plugs into J1772 rated 1.5kW at 100V.

    translated by google:
    A: Vehicle power connector
    B: Vehicle power connector (outlet section)
    C: Accessory receptacle (left side of luggage space)
    D: Accessory receptacle (Front console rear end)
    E: Accessory outlet (Front console rear end · Solar charging system installed)
    [​IMG]
     
    #9 bowang, Feb 18, 2017
  10. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,144
    50,053
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    just pick up a 100v tea kettle, and you're all set.:cool:
     
    #10 bisco, Feb 18, 2017
    bowang likes this.
  11. Samprocat

    Samprocat Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2017
    491
    297
    0
    Location:
    Lincoln, NE
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Eventually Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-ins will have this for first time on market once they start selling....
    I have rented one in Europe and i was powering my House without any problems....
    Acting like Generator

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    #11 Samprocat, Feb 18, 2017
    Data Daedalus and bowang like this.
  12. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,144
    50,053
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i'm surprised this isn't a hyundai feature.
     
    #12 bisco, Feb 18, 2017
    bowang likes this.
  13. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,024
    16,243
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Electricity in Japan

    Well apparently as long as you're not using a kettle/tea pot or a hair dryer, you might be able to import this accessory and use it in North America.

    e.g. an iphone wall charger will work because the charger says "Input: 100-240V, 50/60Hz" so it's basically designed to work worldwide.

    Check the imprinted details on the charging equipment before use.

    *Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for any damage.


    Edit:

    If anyone's curious, it costs ¥75,600 (¥70,000 before taxes). At current exchange rates, that's ~US$670 ($620) or £539.95 (£499.95) or ~CAD$877 (~CAD$812)
     
    #13 Tideland Prius, Feb 18, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2017
    bowang likes this.
  14. bowang

    bowang Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    45
    37
    5
    $670 is pricy for kettle teapot outlet. Would be wonderful (if possible) to have 120v 15A that way Prime can save other BEV stranded on highway.
     
    #14 bowang, Feb 19, 2017
    Tideland Prius likes this.
  15. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,449
    11,762
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    I don't think Korea is as affected by earthquakes as Japan is, or they are better at keeping home town only features quiet at international press events.
     
    #15 Trollbait, Feb 19, 2017
  16. bowang

    bowang Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    45
    37
    5
    Turns out the orange adapter already received AC 100V. The inverter is inside the car.


    [​IMG]
    一方プリウスPHV向けのヴィークルパワーコネクタはインバータを内蔵していない。インバータをプリウスPHVが内蔵しているためだ。図3にあるオレンジ色のアダプタだけで済むので、小型軽量だ。
    On the other hand, the vehicle power connector for Prius PHV does not have an inverter built in. This is because the Inverter is built in the Prius PHV. It's compact and lightweight as it requires only the orange adapter in Figure 3.

    The AC 100V 1500W inverter seems to be under driver seat.
    [​IMG]
    This is for gen3. not sure how it's now with Prime.
     
    #16 bowang, Feb 21, 2017
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2017
  17. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    20,179
    8,353
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    for $670 - you could buy a nice 4 KW generator & a dozen gallons of gas.

    .
     
    #17 hill, Mar 16, 2017
    Tideland Prius likes this.
  18. Jeff N

    Jeff N The answer is 0042

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    2,382
    1,304
    0
    Location:
    California, USA
    Vehicle:
    2011 Chevy Volt
    The nominal voltage in the US is 120v rather than Japan's 100v. However, many people in the US refer to "110 outlets" because, I think, the utility standards used to be 110v a few decades ago and were later bumped up a little.

    In any case, 120v is an ideal value. In reality, there are homes in the US that may receive utility power as low as 104v (probably most likely in rural areas with long distribution runs). Add in some voltage sag within the house wiring and appliances may well end up with 100v at the outlet. This is not common and not ideal but many electrical appliances designed and sold for the North American market may actually work adequately with 100v but some may not.
     
    #18 Jeff N, Mar 16, 2017
  19. giora

    giora Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2010
    1,966
    730
    0
    Location:
    Herzliya, Israel. Car: Euro version GLI
    Vehicle:
    2013 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    N/A
    This is how it is done with the Prius PHV (Prime) in Japan:

    When the newly added EV Power Supply Mode has been selected, the vehicle's external electrical power supply function can supply household electricity without the engine being turned on. In addition, when the HV Power Supply Mode has been selected, the Prius PHV (with the engine running) can supply electricity for about two days at a maximum output level of 1,500W, when starting with a full tank of gasoline. The Prius PHV thus helps to support Toyota's disaster recovery support activities. For example, vehicles equipped with the external power supply function can be introduced into company fleets and loaned out following disasters.

    Toyota Launches Redesigned "Prius PHV" in Japan | TOYOTA Global Newsroom

    This is not for "just boiling a kettle"
     
    #19 giora, Mar 16, 2017
  20. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,024
    16,243
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Good to know. I've always wondered why some people say 110V, others say 120V. (and similarly aboard, it's 220V or 240V).

    As long as you read the power adapter and it says it's for use as low as 100V, it should be fine, right? I'm guessing most are lower powered devices (like the phone chargers) rather than something like a kettle.

    Well there are several built-in AC100V/1500W outlets in the car (one in the boot, one in the rear console if equipped with the solar roof option and one between the front seats).

    This thread is referring to the accessory that plugs into the J1772 outlet. That is for camping purposes.
     
    #20 Tideland Prius, Mar 16, 2017
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 5