1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Real World MPG Numbers

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Fuel Economy' started by krmcg, Jan 22, 2016.

  1. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    154
    151
    1
    Location:
    Port Charlotte, FL
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    20? That doesn't sound right. Have you checked your tire pressure? There's no reason my mileage should be better than yours, given where I live.
     
  2. grape808

    grape808 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2016
    150
    153
    0
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Just filled tires from 33 to 38 psi the other day. Maybe not actually 20, but I'm pretty sure I've gotten mpg in the 20s. 40s for sure. I assumed it's due to electric engine not being warmed up on really short trips. These are days when I might go down the street to the gym, park for 2-3 hours, then drive to the market down the street, then go back home.
     
  3. grape808

    grape808 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2016
    150
    153
    0
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    In my car daily records, I found 3 days that added up to 1.4 - 1.8 miles total for the day. Based on the low mileage those have to be errands in the neighborhood only; wouldn't make it to the next town without going at least 5 miles round trip.

    Last weekend I drove 1.8m and got 20 mpg. Two weeks earlier I drove 1.6m and got 37 mpg. Week before that I drove 1.4m and got 40 mpg.

    I just drove 0.9m on a hot engine (just commuted 15 miles, went to the market, and then drove 0.9m home) and got almost 95 mpg.
     
  4. RCO

    RCO Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    3,709
    5,184
    0
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    That sounds about right for what you drive to me. I suspect it's all those short trips that are hitting your mileage. Without witnessing how you drive it is impossible to advise you exactly, but you will find that your mpg increases to normal after about 10 miles of driving, YMMV.
     
    grape808 and krmcg like this.
  5. thunderstruck

    thunderstruck Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    154
    151
    1
    Location:
    Port Charlotte, FL
    Vehicle:
    2022 Prius
    Model:
    Three
  6. djSyndrome

    djSyndrome Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2016
    30
    27
    2
    Location:
    Seattle-ish
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    My MPG gauge ('16 Two) is about 1-2mpg high, but as a percentage that's probably within the margin of error for fuel levels, tank temperature, etc.

    Currently averaging 52.3 over 5,000 miles during a colder than normal winter with lots of idling while warming up, and still getting used to best practices for driving it.
     
    RCO likes this.
  7. tucatz

    tucatz Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2010
    501
    416
    0
    Location:
    Manzanita, Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    After months of these reading reports of terrific mileage, and my new 4 touring returning tank averages in the high 40s I have some good news. I went for the proverbial Sunday drive today from Oakland to the coast and back. Mixed highway and byway not driving slow, but enjoying the drive. Round trip of 150 miles was a satisfying 62 mpg. So I know it is possible.
     
    RCO likes this.
  8. ATHiker

    ATHiker Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    644
    560
    0
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    So far Fuelly is reporting a combined average of 50.91 MPG for the 2016 Four Touring vs. 54.81MPG for the 2016 Four with the less fashionable 15" (I made this size correction with an edit -- my original post said 16") wheels.

    I think they show similar numbers for the other Touring vs non-Touring models.

    IMG_3876.PNG

    IMG_3877.PNG
     
    #588 ATHiker, Mar 12, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2017
    tucatz likes this.
  9. ATHiker

    ATHiker Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    644
    560
    0
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    So, after drawing all sorts of conclusions from the graph showing the 2016 Four Touring vs the 2016 Four, I went back and checked the numbers for the 2016 Three Touring vs the 2016 Three.

    The MPG difference was still there, but it was much smaller.

    Fuelly is reporting a combined average 52.11 mpg for the Three Touring vs 53.4 MPG for the Three. A much smaller delta.

    IMG_3879.PNG

    IMG_3883.PNG

    Go figure.
     
    #589 ATHiker, Mar 12, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2017
  10. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,801
    11,362
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    XLE
    The Four & Three non-Touring have 15 inch wheels in the US just like the Two & Two Eco.
     
  11. TinyTim

    TinyTim Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    368
    224
    0
    Location:
    Seattle
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    That was what I was going to say. The mileage difference between 15" and 17" wheels is minimal but I think there is a difference in fuel economy.
     
  12. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2016
    11,801
    11,362
    0
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    XLE
    I agree, but the Fuelly data is insufficient, IMHO.
    I think the self-reported sample sizes listed are too small to draw many conclusions.
     
  13. ATHiker

    ATHiker Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    644
    560
    0
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    Here is a Fuelly chart for all 2016 models.

    52.84 mpg average per tank.

    IMG_3886.PNG
     
  14. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,677
    39,222
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Maybe there's 17" tire levels mooshed in with the 15"? I've not thought about it, looked at mine (3rd gen Canadian Touring, with 17"). I gave my location as Canada, and am presented with these level options:
    upload_2017-3-12_7-57-4.png

    The actual Canadian 2010 Prius levels were: Base* , Premium, Premium w/ Solar Panel, Technology and Touring. However, what Fuelly shows me looks like UK levels?? So I just gave up, picked Premium.

    And even in the States, maybe people are messing up their level, or just leaving it on Base? If that's the case that'd mean the spread between 15" and 17" might be a bit wider than reported. I notice too, in the graph showing all, there's twin peaks, maybe the 15" and 17" peak.

    (* think that's what it's called, not clear in brochure)
     
  15. tucatz

    tucatz Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2010
    501
    416
    0
    Location:
    Manzanita, Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    Thanks for the data ATHiker. Sounds about right. Bigger tires and more stuff on the 4 touring is going to be what may be. Btw, the drive to the coast was to go hiking! Point Reyes national seashore is a treasure. I love this place more than chatrooms more than words. :)
     
  16. Chippingawayatlife

    Chippingawayatlife Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    159
    116
    0
    Location:
    San jose
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Guys I want to brag about my mpg. Yesterday and today, I went for high scores and achieved it with the wonderful weather these two days. My normal commute last week in slightly cooler weather and normal driving has a daily average of about 65mpg displayed. Today I reached an average of 73.4 mpg over my 67.9 mile commute! Temperature was 60s-80s F. Mainly highway and some traffic. I was trying really hard timing, p&g and staying in the slow lane. My commute has quite some elevation changes as well. I don't think I'll do this often as I feel like apologizing to everyone behind me. But I feel so proud today. :)

    One thing though I noticed that the total daily mileage decreased to 67.9. Normally my commute is religiously 68.1 mi displayed during normal driving. Maybe the slower speed today and yesterday affects how the computer reads mileage. Or maybe the slow lane has slightly less distance covered.

    I've attached the elevation of one direction of my route.
     

    Attached Files:

    grape808, Prodigyplace and RCO like this.
  17. CooCooCaChoo

    CooCooCaChoo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2015
    932
    523
    0
    Location:
    Cow-lee-fornia
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius
    Model:
    LE
    Inside track is always shorter. If you watch any car races, everybody goes inside going into a turn because of this. On my work commute, ~42 miles round trip, if I'm the only car on the road, I'll hit the insides myself.

    This is how I made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs.
     
    RCO and Prodigyplace like this.
  18. TinyTim

    TinyTim Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2016
    368
    224
    0
    Location:
    Seattle
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I got 61.9 MPG in around 78 miles. I hope the spring and summer provide better mileage but I think there are too many hills around my area to improve much on these numbers.
     
    Chippingawayatlife likes this.
  19. tucatz

    tucatz Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2010
    501
    416
    0
    Location:
    Manzanita, Oregon
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    Real world... happy with 62 mpg on my 'Sunday drive'. Happy with 46-50 on my daily urban commutes.
     
    RCO likes this.
  20. raspy

    raspy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    438
    699
    0
    Location:
    London, UK
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Warm engine. 30mph roads. Early morning drive, zero traffic so I was able to accelerate very gently.

    Equivalent to 94 mpg (USA)
    1489939572811.jpg

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    #600 raspy, Mar 19, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2017
    RCO likes this.