I think we should turn a blind eye and do nothing about it. Love, Al Gore; Bill Clinton; Ted Kennedy; Hillary Clinton; John Kerry.
I see that Bush was very successful in stoppin it's creation and getting North Korea to drop their plans.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Jun 16 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]272458[/snapback]</div> There you go again, damn liberal. The man's only had, uh, ah, FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(daronspicher @ Jun 16 2006, 05:58 PM) [snapback]272430[/snapback]</div> We have to invade and end the threat immediately. To this end, our troops are now invading Singapore. Love, George W. Bush.
Nowhere in the article did they mention how far that new missle could fly. Alaska? Seattle? San Fran? New York? Aren't we glad we have that "Missle Defense Shield" that Regan built?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Jun 16 2006, 04:10 PM) [snapback]272458[/snapback]</div> The North's agreement to accept IAEA safeguards initiated a series of IAEA inspections of North Korea's nuclear facilities. This promising development was halted by the North's refusal in January 1993 to allow special inspections of two unreported facilities suspected of holding nuclear waste. Ignoring the South-North Joint Declaration of the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, North Korea refused IAEA inspections and operated nuclear reprocessing facilities, making the world suspicious of its nuclear intentions. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nuke/index.html Hmmmmm. What also happened in January1993? Oh yeah, that's right . . . Clinton was sworn in as President. Coincidence? :huh: AGREED FRAMEWORK BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF KOREA Geneva, October 21, 1994 IV. Both sides will work together to strengthen the international nuclear non proliferation regime. 1) The DPRK will remain a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) and will allow implementation of its safeguards agreement under the Treaty. http://www.kedo.org/pdfs/AgreedFramework.pdf In October 2002, North Korean officials acknowledged the existence of a clandestine program to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons that is in violation of the Agreed Framework and other agreements. Tensions between the United States and North Korea have been running especially high since, in early October of 2002, Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly informed North Korean officials that the United States was aware that North Korea had a program underway to enrich uranium for use in nuclear weapons. Initially North Korea denied this, but later confirmed the veracity of the US claim. In confirming that they had an active nuclear weapons program, they also declared the Agreed Framework nullified. In a roundtable discussion with the United States and China in Beijing on April 24, 2003, North Korean officials admitted for the first time that they possessed nuclear weapons. Furthermore, North Korean officials claim to have reprocessed spent fuel rods and have threatened to begin exporting nuclear materials unless the United States agrees to one-on-one talks with North Korea. http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/nuke/index.html So let me get this straight. Clinton had his entire eight years as president to stop North Korea from developing the bomb, but within the first two years of W's presidency, North Korea admits to violating the Clinton era Agreed Framework, and then six months after that announces it has nuclear weapons . . . Yet it's President Bush's fault?????:huh: B Frickin S! :angry: Yep, more liberal blame game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(routeonedog @ Jun 16 2006, 07:48 PM) [snapback]272542[/snapback]</div> It depends on which version of the missile (which version they will test launch is unknown to us) and the weight of its payload . . . AKA how - big - a - bomb. :blink: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/missile/index.html
Blame game? Look at the first post, by daron. Just like daron, you've written out of reaction. My response was not intended as a Bush bash. I wrote it as a piece of news that was free from the conservative vs liberal bashing, but whaddyaknow your bud daron made it one. My original belief, and the one I have now... was that neither Bush nor Clinton could be held responsible... it was North Korea that secretly decided to break the agreement. Peace and diplomacy is the better way of dealing with issues, but in this case the North Koreans intentionally failed. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sufferin' Prius Envy @ Jun 17 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]272777[/snapback]</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Jun 17 2006, 06:52 PM) [snapback]272873[/snapback]</div> Funny, I decided against one line I had composed for the end of my post. It said, “Considering the information I just posted, if I had to choose between what daronspicher wrote and Mirza's reply, I think daronspicher's may have a little more validity, even though it is patently unfair to the non-Clintons in that group. (That is assuming Hillary was co-running the White House during Bill's term :lol: )" Sorry if you think I was attacking you personally, I wasn't. :mellow: You tend to be one of the more even keeled people here in FHOP . . . liberal leaning, yes – not that there is anything wrong with that. You are not one I would label a rabid ultra liberal. Your OP, being just a link, was left wide open for abuse from whomever here in FHOP. If you wanted it to stay non-political, you should have said so . . . not that that would have made any difference. But then, at least, any political replys would have looked dumb just for being there. If you would not have responded to what daronspicher wrote, I, and many others, would have just brushed off his comment as a silly conservative bash. But, no, you didn't . . . and your post put blame on Bush for the nuke problems in North Korea . . . also patently unfair . . . and that is why I still stand by my post . . . but it wasn't meant as a personal attack on you.
