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Bill O'reilly says there are no viable hybrids.

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  1. stevedegraw

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Expedition @ Jun 1 2006, 10:49 PM) [snapback]264480[/snapback]</div>
    Hey Expedition, sweet ride. It takes a set of huevos to put up a big hog SUV avatar like that up on Prius Chat.

    What kind of MPG do you get with it ?
     
  2. darelldd

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    Ha! You guys think the treatment of hybrids is bad on Conservative Talk Radio? Ever hear their opinion on EVs? The difference there is that many hybrid drivers feel the same (delusional) way. :(
     
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    mcbrunnhilde Opera singin' Prius nut!

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    I'd really love to have an EV car, but with the distances I have to drive at times, it would be impossible. Besides, my mom has to have a car that has high seats so she can get in easily. I wish I could afford an EV for short hops and the Prius for everything else. It would be great for those who commute every day!
     
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    Salsawonder: You might try giving progressive talk a listen during your morning drive. Try 1360 on you AM dial.

    And for the rest of us, check airamericaradio.com for a station near you (not related to the CIA operation of years ago).
     
  5. larkinmj

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MadHungarian @ Jun 2 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]264601[/snapback]</div>
    Or Ch. 167 if you have XM :)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MadHungarian @ Jun 2 2006, 08:36 AM) [snapback]264601[/snapback]</div>
    Pretty slim pickens there, too. Al Franken is smart, witty and usually spot on. Ed Schulz, who bears an uncanny aural resemblence to Rush Limbaugh and I don't think is actually affiliated with AA, is boring. Randy Rhodes is truly looney, the liberal doppelganger of Michael Savage. The invective, half-truths, misinformation and outright bull shit is staggering. The local morning commute guy started out pretty good, but seems to be running out of ideas and usually devolves to snarky insults of republicans.

    The truth is that someone like Franken, left or right, is too good for talk radio. It's a labor of love for him and I expect he'll move on once he loses interest.
     
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    It is kind like the old saying: "Believe nothing that you hear and half of what you see"! :lol:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RonH @ Jun 2 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]264612[/snapback]</div>
    Franken will move on- he's running for the Senate in 2008. I don't know what will happen to AirAmerica then. I agree with you about Randi Rhodes, although she seems to be very popular. I don't want to hear ranting, rather it's from the left or right.
    Recently, Thom Hartmann filled in for Randi Rhodes while she was away. He is absolutely one of the best people on talk radio.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(simple_in_seattle @ Jun 1 2006, 03:44 PM) [snapback]264176[/snapback]</div>
    To this day, very few americans know that GWBush sat on a stool at Booker Elementary School and continued to read a book entitled "My Pet Goat" for several, crucial minutes (not seconds) AFTER being informed that "America is under attack." Those who do know that that is what Mr. Bush did have Mr. Moore to thank for the most part. The segment of 'Fahrenheit 911' showing Mr. Bush sitting like a dumb-founded, bump on a log will someday be recognized as a stunning indictment of the disservice done to Americans by its mainstream media that ignored Bush's obvious incompetence for so long.

    Thank you for mentioning Michael Moore.


    onward


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RonH @ Jun 2 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]264612[/snapback]</div>
    You've misspelled her name:

    It's RANDI RHODES

    She is, by far and away, the most effective progressive radio talk show hostess currently having access to mainstream media.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(upland_bill @ Jun 1 2006, 10:27 AM) [snapback]264097[/snapback]</div>
    Bill who? ... oh! that Bill. Is he still around? Someone forgot to flush the toilet. :lol:
     
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    Rancid13 Cool Chick with a Black Prius

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(upland_bill @ Jun 1 2006, 10:27 AM) [snapback]264097[/snapback]</div>
    Ah, so he's one of those factonistas, eh? I like to go with whatever my gut tells me, not what these silly things called 'facts' say. Which is why I don't trust books. They're all fact, no heart. In the words of Stephen Colbert... :lol: :lol:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jplotinus @ Jun 2 2006, 10:41 AM) [snapback]264654[/snapback]</div>
    I was just going to say "whatever, to each his own" when I noticed you said "hostess". Isn't she the only "progressive radio talk show hostess currently having access to mainstream media?" Unless you consider Grafalo's overnight show mainstream media.
     
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    If Bill O'Reilly's lips are moving he is most likely lying or at the least bending the truth so far that it becomes unrecognizeable.

    If Bill O'Reilly's lips are moving he is most likely lying or at the least bending the truth so far that it becomes unrecognizeable.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RonH @ Jun 2 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]264726[/snapback]</div>
    We listen to her sometimes in the Prius but my kids now call her "Ranti" Rhodes.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RonH @ Jun 2 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]264612[/snapback]</div>
    It sounds like Air America perfectly targets their audience. Why just take a look at the left leaning posts in FHOP. Wouldn't the above sentences fairly accurately describe them. For that matter, just take a look at this thread.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rancid13 @ Jun 2 2006, 01:33 PM) [snapback]264725[/snapback]</div>
    That's right- and everyone knows that facts have a liberal bias! :lol:
     
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    Bill O'rielly can eat my shorts. I am at 250 miles on this tank and currently at 66.3 MPH (MFD) <crosses fingers that I will break 70 MPG>. I have to drive the speed limit (60 mph) to get that. Based on my calculations on the amount my wife drives her's will be paid off (after trading it for a Honda Civic) in 5.3 years and she only gets 50 MPG (hand calc). Heck we had her Civic for 5 years.
     
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    Bill Oreilly did not have his facts straight on the hybrids. But let's not trash him. He has done a lot for this country not the least of which is getting Jessica's law passed in nearly half the states. He is well researched usually and does seem fair and balanced. But I watch him all the time unlike some people here who have never watched him but have heard he is "conservative". Don't be ill informed like Bill was on this issue and shoot off at the mouth with out the facts.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ Jun 1 2006, 07:27 PM) [snapback]264411[/snapback]</div>
    Wow, a Congress person physically strikes a police officer (on tape no less) and that is not a big story. Where were Amnesty International and the UN during all of this? You must not respect the men and women who put their lives on the line for your safety. :(

    I am sure when Mrs. McKinney (D. Mars) attempted to beg for the rejected donation to NY (after 9-11) to be diverted to her constituents in GA. you were fine with that too. Right? The fact that the Prince of Saudi Arabia dog-eared a donation to NY after 9-11 with implications that "Jews" were responsible and made the actions of the terrorists justifiable was an outrage.

    When I heard that Mayor Giuliani returned the check to the Prince, I was in awe of his integrity. Anyone who wants to lay blame some how to our generosity as a nation as way to justify the actions carried out on 9-11 (AKA Prof. Ward "I-AM-NO-INDIAN" Churchill) is sick in the head. We need more leaders like Mayor Giuliani in my opinion. The fact that "Jihad" Cindy would cow tow to the Saudi's of which the majority of the terrorists came from (in case you forgot) is only a further disgrace to our Congress. At least members with integrity, like Sen. Zell Miller (D. GA) could call her actions, as they were "treasonous." It is amazing to see how the desire for the “almighty†dollar will corrupt some ones moral compass. Although it is as they say, money does not corrupt power does. Maybe that is what justified Jihad Cindy’s actions when she decided to assault a police officer for attempting to stop an unidentifiable and out of dress Congresswoman. That old shooting incident on Capitol Hill last year was of no importance to her.

    Remember kids… Cops are the bad people in Cindy’s District. I had better be careful or she will label me a racist as well. I guess serving in the military will do that to you. What a bunch of bump kiss.

    But, because I am “fair and balanced,†like the ranking cable news channel (Does it hurt you that it has the first five of the top ten news shows or that we “stooges†choose to watch FOX over the Communist News Network?) I have included the remarks made by Jihad Cindy to the Prince of Saudia Arabia (taken from her very own website- she must be proud).

    October 12, 2001
    His Royal Highness Prince Alwaleed bin Talal
    Embassy of Saudi Arabia
    601 New Hampshire Avenue, NW
    Washington, DC 20037
    Dear Prince Alwaleed bin Talal:
    I would like to take just a moment to thank you for your recent demonstration of empathy with those suffering from the devastating and heinous September 11 attacks on the United States Pentagon and the World Trade Center. I would especially like to thank you for your most generous offer of $10 million to assist those Americans in need as a result of those attacks.
    I was disappointed that Mayor Giuliani chose to decline your generous offer and instead criticize you for your observations of events in the Middle East. Whether he agreed with you or not I think he should have recognized your right to speak and make observations about a part of the world which you know so well.
    I think Mayor Giuliani would do well to listen to the words of one of our greatest Americans, former Senator Robert Kennedy. In 1968 he said that America "is a great nation and a strong people. Any who seek to comfort rather than to speak plainly, reassure rather than instruct, promise satisfaction rather than reveal frustration--they deny that greatness and drain that strength. For today as it was in the beginning, it is the truth that makes us free." I believe Senator Robert Kennedy's remarks remain as inspirational and true today as when he first spoke them over 30 years ago.
    Let me say that there are a growing number of people in the United States who recognize, like you, that U.S. policy in the Middle East needs serious examination. Indeed, on the same day that you made your remarks about US policy in the Middle East, the Chairman of the House International Relations Committee, The Honorable Henry Hyde, spoke on National Public Radio and said, "There's no question in my mind that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the most important issue in dispute, and has generated a lot of the animosity towards us because of our unwavering support for Israel, which will remain in place."
    At the same time, CNN played an interview with former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski who stated that America must "deal with some of the issues that animate the hostility" against us, like "the treatment of the population of Iraq" and that "the Israelis are stronger, so they're naturally inflicting much more casualties than the Palestinians on the Israelis and that produces frustration and rage."
    Your Royal Highness, many of us here in the United States have long been concerned about reports by Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch that reveal a pattern of excessive, and often indiscriminate, use of lethal force by Israeli security forces in situations where Palestinian demonstrators were unarmed and posed no threat of death or serious injury to the security forces or to others.
    Israeli peace organizations like B'Tselem accuse the Israeli Defense Forces of violating the most fundamental rules of international law in committing atrocities against Palestinians. The Israeli Gush Shalom boldly states that "Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip is the root cause of the violence and hatred. As long as the occupation continues, bloodshed will continue and increase."
    Indeed, Your Royal Highness, all people of good conscience understand that this kind of mistreatment breeds a hotbed of anger and despair that destabilizes peace in the Middle East and elsewhere. Until we confront the realities of events in the Middle East our nation and the nations of the Middle East will be at risk.
    Your Royal Highness, there are many people in America who desperately need your generosity. People who have been locked out, marginalized from America's mainstream. All of those people are poor and too many of them are people of color. A black baby boy born in Harlem today has less chance of reaching age 65 than a baby born in Bangladesh.
    Your Royal Highness, the state of black America is not good. It is painfully visible in Washington D.C., where, just a few hundred yards from the White House, one can find black man after black man huddled in bus shelters, doorways, over subway ventilation shafts, sleeping on the street, thrown away like trash. Ironically, many of them are Vietnam veterans who, having served this nation with distinction in Vietnam, now find themselves without adequate care and accommodation. Unfortunately, this same scene is repeated in each and every one of our major cities here in the United States.
    I am ashamed to say that my home city of Atlanta is no exception. Just last night my son was out with members of Atlanta's Muslim community who, for years, have been feeding Atlanta's homeless. Sadly, no one in mainstream Atlanta knows about the tireless and generous work of the local Muslim community. But the poor know, and I guess at one level that's all that matters. But on a broader view mainstream America should know.
    The Justice Department admits that blacks are more likely than whites to be pulled over by police, imprisoned, and put to death. And, though blacks and whites have about the same rate of drug use, blacks are more likely to be arrested than whites and are more likely to receive longer prison sentences than whites. Incredibly, 80% of people in prison in the United States are people of color. Twenty-six black men were executed last year, some probably innocent; America began 2001 by executing a retarded black woman.
    Government studies on health disparities confirm that blacks are less likely to receive surgery, transplants, and prescription drugs than whites. Physicians are less likely to prescribe appropriate treatment for blacks than for whites and black scientists, physicians, and institutions are shut out of the funding stream to prevent all this. I serve in Congress where the Black Caucus is shrinking. Yet, sections of the Voting Rights Act will soon expire, and quite frankly, after crippling Court decisions, there is not much left of affirmative action to mend.
    In the FBI's own words, its counterintelligence program (COINTELPRO) had as a goal, "to expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of black organizations and to prevent black "leaders from gaining respectability." And instead of real leaders, COINTELPRO offers us hand-picked "court priests" who are more loyal to the plan than to the people. Court priests who preach peace, peace when there is no peace.
    As you can see, the statistics are very grim for Black America. Although your offer was not accepted by Mayor Giuliani, I would like to ask you to consider assisting Americans who are in dire need right now. I believe we can guide your generosity to help improve the state of Black America and build better lives.
    My office can provide you with a list of charities who labor under the most difficult circumstances to try and improve the lives of the people they serve. I hope you will consider reaching out to our charities and to our people who are in need.
    Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions you may have.
    Sincerely,

    Cynthia McKinney
    Member of Congress


    Conservative, Veteran, Republican, Hybrid Owner

    Chinook-Hybrid
     
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    Chinook-hybrid: "When I heard that Mayor Giuliani returned the check to the Prince, I was in awe of his integrity."

    If McCain and Giuliani run for Pres/VP, they'll win. More like an FHOP topic though.