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Flash vs HTML5

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  1. zenMachine

    zenMachine Just another Onionhead

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    Didn't want to hijack the iPhone vs Droid thread.

    Does HTML5 Really Beat Flash? The Surprising Results of New Tests - NYTimes.com

    Here's what this all means in layman's terms: Apple isn't allowing Flash to become more efficient on their Mac OS X/Safari platform (or their iPod/iPhone/iPad one, either) by not providing the access to the hardware it needs to reduce its CPU load. Adobe is waiting and watching to see if they do, but, as Ozer says "the ball is in Apple's court."

    Will Apple budge? At this point, it's unlikely. In blocking Flash on Apple devices, the company can easily claim that it's simply not an efficient technology...and that's true for now, considering how it's set up. But if the company wanted to allow it and make it work, it seems reasonable to believe that they could. This is what leads some insiders to believe that the decision to block Flash is less of a technological one and more of a business-minded one. After all, if you could easily visit Hulu.com to stream TV shows and movies, then why would you need to buy them from the iTunes Store?
     
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    In comes Droid ... not only can you run flash ... you can piggyback alternate operating systems on top of it ... which is pretty cool. Don't know if that's possible on the iphone.


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    I've been told that Apple, like Microsoft, hides/keeps undocumented many of their specialized OS API functions so that developers are forced to only use the well documented and slow functions that are exposed. This means slower software for the end user.
     
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    Flash is evil. I wish it would go away and be replaced by something more solid, less proprietary, and less of a resource hog.

    Tom
     
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    TheForce Stop War! Lets Rave! Make Love!

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    I like HTML5 over flash. I like the quality of h.264 over Theora but since firefox does not support it I'm only using Theora to encode my videos.
     
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    flash is the devil's work. hate it. hate developing in it, hate waiting on it, I hate it.
     
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    Funny how everything on that list has been doable with a windows mobile phone for a decade and on an android phone since they were released.

    I laugh at people with iphones... :)
     
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    War's coming...


    The Flash Blog Apple Slaps Developers In The Face
     
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    Here comes Google...

    Google open-sourcing VP8 video may change Internet video forever - Computerworld Blogs
     
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    I've been running click-to-flash for a long time know, I hate the performance load it puts on my system that other products don't seem to have...

    Today I installed 10.1 Gala of flash, and guess what it does use hardware acceleration utilising the official API's etc....BTW before 10.1 there was no hardware acceleration Windows either and somehow they were able to make it efficient...

    I think SJ's post is balanced and honest...I don't like running code on an extra layer at all...There is just no need for it unless you are into silly online games...
     
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    The long wait for Adobe Flash 10.1 for Android platform will finally get over in June. Adobe's CTO Kevin Lynch stated, in official blog post, that Flash Player 10.1 for Android phones would be previewed at Google I/O conference in May. That means the next major Android update 2.2 dubbed as Froyo may be seeded our at around same time. This is just a pleasant break from the recent heat between Adobe and Apple over Flash platform.

    Techtree.com India > News > Software > Adobe Flash 10.1 for Android due in June
     
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    Source: Adobe issues Flash update to thwart ransomware

    So this thread dates from 2010 and in April 2016:

    NEW YORK—Adobe Systems has issued an emergency security update for the Adobe Flash Player to stymie an attack that could impact Windows, Mac, Chrome OS and Linux users. The updates address “critical vulnerabilities that could potentially allow an attacker to take control of the affected system,” Adobe says.

    The potential attack in question is known as “ransomware,” increasingly sophisticated software that can maliciously encrypt and disable everything on a computer until the owner forks over a ransom to the hackers who unleashed the code. Such ransoms can amount to hundreds of dollars.
    . . .

    Our home Macs were pretty much Flash free both Firefox and Safari. Only Chrome had flash but no more.

    I run Virtual PC, Windows XP, on a Mac and several years ago, it got zapped by ransomware. I remember the phone call. In that case, I'd triggered it by clicking on one of those 'free scanner' web sites. After the phone call, I simply wiped out that virtual system; reloaded from media and; never looked back.

    As for work computers, we have a 3d party who maintains them and I pretty much let them screw up the PC on their own. Weekly it is rebooted, usually each Wednesday morning. So I find the machine rebooted; do the startup scruff, and; get a cuppa coffee or iPhone wander. Every time I go through the Windows-dance, a voice in my head says,"If this were a Mac, this would not be necessary. If we had a charge number for the time wasted . . . "

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Agreed. What's funny in all this is that at some point a few years ago, Adobe gave up development on Flash Mobile. Flash was always such a bug-infested security risk, not to mention incredible resource hog. I got rid of flash on my Macs, and have done the same with the Windows machines at work.

    Whenever I have a site where it says "FLASH", I close out the tab and move on. Many of the You Tube and other sites have something in place to switch to HTML 5 if it doesn't detect Flash.

    I rarely reboot my Macs, a 2008 Macbook and a 2013 iMac. Our outside IT firm has many techs that converted to Macs for their own use, and some use them for work now. Their experience matches mine over 15 years. They rarely have to do anything to support the Macs.

    Back to Flash. It should be buried, now.
     
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    Flash still sucks all these years later.