Gen4, is it worth it?

Yes, what would be realistic to expect more than this, say 20% improvement? When you would expect, for example, 30% or 40% improvement, I think you are dreaming.

The question about what the Prius IV is worth very much depends on comparison with other options and will depend on your situation. For example, one situation is if you don't have a car and you just want to buy one. Many of us are in a situation that there already is a car to be compared to. And then, given that the decrease in value is disproportionately more in the first years of a car's lifetime, the 20% improvement in fuel costs may or may not be enough to compensate for the extra money added by replacing your car. But there are many other variables in such an equation, many of which have been mentioned already, among which having a car with 0 km's or miles and 0 years, which will have a lot of impact on the remaining value of the car after a number of years.

 

Sorry, did not catch the message you wanted to convey here, can you rephrase this one for me?

 

Sorry, maybe these first sentences were kept a bit too short to be clear. The first word "Yes" is meant to refer to you as a confirmation and support of what you wrote, but the rest of the sentences are not meant to refer to you, but in general to those who suggest that the improvement in efficiency is only marginal. What do they expect? Improvements of 30 to 40%? That would be a totally unrealistic expectation in my view. So the "you" in these sentences is certainly not you!

 

i think that 'they' are just stirring the pot.

 

If your expectations of Gen4 is to buy you a new car and have pay for itself with gas saving over Gen3, look elsewhere. I doubt there is another car that would.

 

Actually, my 2010 Prius model V with the advanced technology package has basically the same safety features: Dynamic Radar Cruise Control, Lane Departure Keep, Pre-Collision System.

YMMV,

MidCow2

 

no, it is not worth it. with the uglification, the increasingly compelling competition and the zero interest millenials have in automobiles, this thing is going to be a sales flop.

 

Aren't these features being improved on and spread across the range in the Gen 4?

 

I still think the claimed 20% improvement of the 2016 Prius Eco to be near-miraculous. That's a very big improvement on top of the already excellent mileage of the 2015 Prius.

I'm really looking forward to understanding what they changed to get that improvement and where the efficiency is primarily focused. For example, is it primarily an improvement tilted toward city driving or is it equally impressive on the highway mpg?

 

I'm still trying to find some competition. Which competition do you find compelling?

 

I'm curious too. I've examined many other high mileage cars but can't find anything better, or indeed anything close. My parameters are about $25K, about 50 mpg, and 20 cu ft of cargo space, spare tire, high reliability. There are other factors but those are the top features. Finding a match has proven to be a challenge at least.

 

Every time I ask for some competition suggestions, I get a car that gets in the 20s or 30s for MPG (i.e. Altima), a car with a lot less internal space (i.e. Volt or Insight), or a car that's a lot more expensive (i.e. Tesla Model S).

 

There's some statements from Ken1784, that the Prius ECO model is stripped down, reducing weight enough that it's a new testing category. In other words: no miraculous increase in mpg. The reduced weight obviously improves its mpg somewhat, but also puts it in a weight class where the testing regimen is more favourable. I think. See post #67 here:

Gen 4 Staff Manual (In Japanese) =/ Specs/Design/Other Info | Page 4 | PriusChat

And his link in that post.

So far, for me, every revelation is a bit of a groaner.

 

What will make the difference for me is road noise.

 

I'm waiting for the generation 3 Prius V. When will that come out?

 

i can't wait to get my hands on one. probably the finest example of automobile engineering to come down the pike in a long, long time!! worth every penny and more, imo.

 

in two years and I guess that would be the 2nd gen V

 

Is it worth it?

In terms of $$$, a 2015 Prius 2 (not the c or v) can be purchased for $18,500 + TTL. Given cost of ownership, it's hard for any new car to beat those numbers.

 

Public service:

TTL = Tax, Title and Licensing

 

Wondering which dealer is offering that price?
In WA and Oregon , the best I saw for Prius 2 is $20,500. One of my colleague is trying to negotiate price for 2015 Prius.