Poll for your reaction of the Gen 4 - so far.

When is the release date for the Gen4? Some Stealerships are saying Nov to Next April? Probably trying to unload the gen 3 at regualar prices is what I suspect

 

... did someone say 'Athletic Look'???

Every time I see a Chrysler Caravan...this is usually what's at the helm. Bulging ill proportions...

 

probably early next year.

 

Careful who you talk to at dealerships for arrival date: In mid August, a salesman at Fremont Honda insisted the 2016 Accord was to arrive in December (it got a midcycle refresh)
They started coming in before Labor Day, first weekend in September.

G4 Prius starts production late November. I don't see why it wouldn't hit CA by January.

 

2016 Prius Production starts November, Los Angeles Autoshow Press Days Nov. 17-19,

Toyota Asks Japanese Workers to Shift Into Overtime - WSJ

 

4th Gen is the reason I bought a 3rd Gen..

SM-T700 ?

 

me too! i didn't want to skip a gen.

 

This is the car that I was hoping to see unveiled.

A two door hatchback EV sports car!

 

Some of the ugliest taillights ever. When I first saw them on the Highlander and 4Runner, I had wondered if this was the result of some bewildering regulation. But I didn't see any other car make going out of their way to redefine fugly. Then the front grills caught my attention, and it's really, really hard not to notice them. They look toyish, which is an appropriate term. The Camry and Avalon look pretty decent, but the trend in family styling themes has taken a bad turn for the utterly absurd in other models. In 2015, designers can pretty much do anything they want to with sheetmetal. Hard to believe this is what they chose.

 

I'm not thrilled with the styling either and I guess we all like different things but I just looked at the grilles on the Camry and the Avalon. It seemed to me that the Avalon grill looked like a Guppy and the Camry grill was possibly a new low point for the model.

 

agreed. i think we are fortunate that the gen IV escaped with it's face intact. most toy grilles are horrible imo.

 

The Camry tends to look better in darker colors. The Avalon seems to have the right blend of shape and size. IMO, what they should have done is to scale the enormous front grill to the size of the car, the Corolla looks downright frightful in some colors. Now this is assuming there is an actual benefit/need for a grill that stupid in the first place. The Ford Fusion did a nice scale of the oval grill.

At any rate, form/function/style don't need to be fighting one another. I realize some have gotten to the point where they don't even list styling on their top ten. But to attract customers, it does help to have nice designs. Perhaps everybody's graduating from the Fugly Design University online today.

 

Interesting that the Gen IV is not bad in the front end. But look what the hooligans did to the rear end while the front end guys went home for the weekend

 

This is a really dumb post.

"Short and wide" may not mean "fast and nimble" for humans, but it does for cars.

 

Funny you mentioned toyish... because it reminds me of the interior on who approved the "white plastics" near the gear controls which is toyish too.... ummm like the plastics they used on the economy flip phones.

SGH-I337M ?

 

The white thing is likely a societal / cultural thing. Toyota claims it's representative of "fine bone china", which is not something you'll find in the average US home. But perhaps in Japan...

 

misaka?

 

Funny, I never use ANY of the following: ECO, PWR, and P (park). Yeah well, maybe once a year I use Park, but almost invariably I just shut the car down, which does Park.

What I DO use, a lot, is the Mode button on the heating/ventilating row of button. Typically I'm looking to set it to heat/defog mode, on a rainy night, on a twisty road. And of course it's a flush, nondescript button, in the middle of a row of like buttons, and you have to push it multiple times, while looking away from the road, to get to the LCD icon of your choice. And if you go to fast you zip by the one you want, get do cycle through them again.