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2008 Prius stats revealed: lithium-ion and 94 mpg !!

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by clett, Apr 8, 2006.

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  1. DaveinOlyWA

    DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!!

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(200Volts @ Apr 14 2006, 11:39 PM) [snapback]240087[/snapback]</div>
    actually its 40% SOC range is 40% to 80% give or take. have never seen it at 40% (actually the lowest ive seen has been about 45%) but have seen it as high as 84% once, 82% a half dozen times. (we have a few monster hills around here being in the shadows of both the Olympics and Cascades)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Don-RI @ Apr 8 2006, 08:44 PM) [snapback]237002[/snapback]</div>
    I DON'T think this will be a plug-in hybrid. The deal is, first of all the 113mpg is using the British gallon, so that's about 94 american MPG-- but then add to that the fact that the British mileage-measuring system is notably even less accurate than our EPA system (e.g in the British tests they don't exceed 45mph or something like that-- very unrealistic conditions.) So, when you factor all that in, the car will probably get about 64mpg real-world -- which is a (barely) believable advance over the current 45-or-so real-world mpg.
     
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  3. clett

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(doc3osh @ Apr 25 2006, 08:45 AM) [snapback]244794[/snapback]</div>
    One of their chief engineers has said in a recent interview that there will be a plug-in hybrid option with a 9 mile all-electric range, allowing charging at home.

    The mileage they quote is likely from the Japanese 10-15 mode test which is probably the slowest and gentlest of all - our British test is not as gentle, and reaches 75 mph on the extra-urban component of the test and includes a cold-start.

    I think the figures they provide DO NOT include the benefits of plugging-in. Frequent pluggers will get much better mileage.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DaveinOlyWA @ Apr 8 2006, 09:18 PM) [snapback]236976[/snapback]</div>

    It isn't if $3.50 a gallon gas. It when and where. It is already $ 3.50 in parts of Los Angeles. My questions is will the new batteries retrofit a Prius 2? If so then an upgrade will cost a lot less than a new car. What do you think?
     
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  5. clett

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FreshAirGuy @ Apr 25 2006, 10:40 AM) [snapback]244824[/snapback]</div>
    There are several companies working on plug-in retrofits for the Prius 2.

    Early adopter prices are very high - $5,000 to $12,000. This will doubtless come down with volume, but a Prius 3 may still turn out to be the cheaper option (if limited EV range).
     
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  6. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(clett @ Apr 25 2006, 07:37 AM) [snapback]244821[/snapback]</div>
    True, the journalists here just regurgitate what they heard/saw/read without considering what it means. They all say "Next Gen Prius: over 100mpg!" Ya no kidding, in imperial MPG except that you're an American magazine so wouldn't it be more appropriate to quote in US MPG or were they too stupid to realise or just wanted to have a cover that said 100mpg which sounds nicer then criticise the Prius when it comes out at 70mpg instead.

    Also, in the Japanese test cycle, that's only an improvement of 5km/L (from the current 35.5km/L to 40km/L) so in reality we're probably gonna see a bump from 55mpg to 60mpg. This time, the Prius will truly have a city advantage because of plug-in. This will essentially mean I can go anywhere within a few mins all in EV mode.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Apr 25 2006, 11:42 AM) [snapback]244851[/snapback]</div>
    The article quoting 113 mpg was AutoExpress, a UK magazine, so I think it's fair for them to use UK gallons.

    I converted that to 94 mpg (US) for the topic title - both are equivalent to the 40 km/l figure suggested by Toyota.
     
    #67 clett, Apr 25, 2006
  8. 200Volts

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    You read it hear first, I bet it will be Li-Poly batteries , not Li-Ion.
     
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  9. Soylent

    Soylent The v isn't a station wagon! It's just big boned

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    I'm getting ready to buy a '06 or '07 Prius... but now, I want the 08!! Wahhhh.

    I'll never be satisfied.
     
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