1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

How often do you rev your engine high (4000+rpm)?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Roger T, Jul 16, 2015.

  1. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Well then, swap the Subaru for my spouse's daily driver, a 1989 Integra, closer in size to the Prius at 1.6L, and with the same I-4 configuration as the Prius. It also has a manual transmission, geared to spin at higher RPM than my old Subaru. When should it start burning oil?

    Do today's common 75 mph expressway speeds, which require 4000 rpm with their gearing, force oil consumption in those Integra engines? Or are they protected by something that a 2010+ Prius lacks?
     
    #21 fuzzy1, Jul 19, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2015
  2. orenji

    orenji Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    5,884
    3,486
    0
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    You are not comparing Apples to Apples, the Integra redline is at 7,000 RPM, so at 4,000 RPM you are still 3,000 RPM from redline. That is a pretty big safety margin, and the Honda motor is not working that hard. The Prius is a totally different designed motor.
     
  3. Blizzard_Persona

    Blizzard_Persona Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    1,787
    945
    0
    Location:
    Pa.
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE
    Don't you guys worry about you or your loved ones getting whiplash when you daredevils accelerate to redline in your Prii??
























    Lol! That's an ongoing joke between the wife and I.

    I tell her to hold on I gotta floor it, don't want you to get whiplash.... Hahaha!!! ;)
     
    m.wynn and SageBrush like this.
  4. orenji

    orenji Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    5,884
    3,486
    0
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    More worried about wearing out my tires, with all the tire smoking hard starts! ;)
     
    m.wynn, Roger T and Blizzard_Persona like this.
  5. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,671
    39,221
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    And with a different redline? 5200, according to this (unsubstantiated) ecomodder link:

    Gen III 2010 Prius - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com
     
  6. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Thanks for the memories guys. My 1995 Integra GSR had a redline at 8100 rpm. Most of my highway stints were at 4000 rpm because that was how fast the engine spun on 5th gear at 80 mph. Absolutely thrilling when I first got the car and drove me nuts when I converted from college student to 9-5 commute. Even at speed limit of 65 it was screaming over 3000 rpm. If it used any oil, it wasn't significant at my 7500 mile OCIs and pouring back into the bottles to recycle. 170 hp out of a non turbo 1.8 liter averaging 25 mpg was impressive. But 50 mpg out of a 1.8 liter engine is a lot more impressive in my book.

    No tach on my Prius and I don't really care to have one. It's not a manual. I stomp on it when I need to. I limit how much I do it same as I did with the Integra. I don't want to stress out the engine and cause unnecessary wear and tear. I rarely ever brought the Prius to the PWR zone when I first got it. Now that I've moved and live among hills, I have to make the engine work hard every time I go on the freeway. It's the only way to get up to speed otherwise, I'd dangerously be going half the speed limit on the freeway as I crest the hilltop.
     
  7. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    But the Integra will be running at the speed full time on the expressway, whereas the Prius will be doing it only briefly. The vast majority of the Prius operation is between 1500-2000 RPM, leaving it more than 3000 below redline also. The last time I checked, none of those 5-7% uphill grades are anywhere near 100 miles long.
     
  8. orenji

    orenji Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    5,884
    3,486
    0
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    This is true. However, I have stated before that a friend of mine who had to commute up some very steep grades on daily basis, saw much oil consumption in his G3, as he reached 100K miles. He admits he was hard on the ICE.
     
    #28 orenji, Jul 19, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2015
  9. yothere

    yothere Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2014
    22
    6
    0
    Listen, ultimately it's a car not that different from any other. If you floor it and slam on the brakes constantly, it'll have a shorter life. If you hit the gas as needed to accelerate or pass, or to get out of a dangerous situation, or just for fun, that's its intended use. Enjoy the car, have fun, and worry not.
     
    #29 yothere, Jul 19, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2015
    JTM2955 likes this.
  10. CR94

    CR94 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    2,642
    1,140
    0
    Location:
    Northwestern S.C.
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    How much is "much"? It would be good to know whether that premature oil consumption resulted from the steep grades, the way he drove, the kind of oil he used, the frequency with which it was changed, or some other destructive factor.
     
  11. zzrguy

    zzrguy Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    88
    23
    0
    Location:
    ny
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Dam now I need to find the tachometer screen.:(
     
  12. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    It is strictly add-your-own.
     
  13. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    56,671
    39,221
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Yeah if you want to see RPM you need an add-on. ScanGauge or some smart phone app. Funny, I haven't even displayed RPM on my ScanGauge, for maybe the last year or so.

    My 2 cents: someone doing a lot of "dramatic" freeway entrances, frequent passing maneuvers and flooring it "for fun" is putting extra stress on the engine. All things being equal, those are the engines that'll start burning oil and so on, sooner than later.
     
  14. CR94

    CR94 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    2,642
    1,140
    0
    Location:
    Northwestern S.C.
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    There's even an old thread here somewhere about how to connect a conventional analog tachometer in a second-generation Prius. I haven't yet investigated whether it's possible in a 3rd-generation. I might try, some dull winter day.
     
  15. zzrguy

    zzrguy Junior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    88
    23
    0
    Location:
    ny
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Go big or go home that's my motto
    [​IMG]
     
    #35 zzrguy, Jul 20, 2015
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2015
    orenji likes this.
  16. orenji

    orenji Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    5,884
    3,486
    0
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Don't know how much, but enough that he traded it in on a new car.....for me any oil burning is a bad sign, it will only get worse.
     
  17. Roger T

    Roger T Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2014
    198
    48
    0
    Location:
    MA
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Me too. But only 1 sec or 2 each time.
     
  18. douglasjre

    douglasjre Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    1,992
    676
    0
    Location:
    Null, NL
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    ----USA----
    Every single time I drive it. I hold my foot to the floor for towing a trailer as fast as I can. I ride the governor everywhere I go. The motor is still quiet.
     
  19. E46Prius

    E46Prius Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    314
    219
    0
    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I'm pretty sure you all are fine. These cars are used as Taxi cabs don't forget and can take unlimited beating. There's nothing you can do that will ever phase this car as long as you change the oil. On my BMW, I've tracked it and redline it (close to 7,000 RPM) on a daily basis and it has 160,000 miles. Still purrs and runs silently and 100% reliably. Never a single hiccup or breakdown. I'm sure these Priuses can handle their own =)
     
  20. douglasjre

    douglasjre Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    1,992
    676
    0
    Location:
    Null, NL
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    ----USA----
    I enjoy the challenge of seeing how long I can hold my foot to the floor. I once run wot for hours on end. I refill the tank every 2 hours because I pull a trailer with two bikes. I peg the throttle wide open in 97 degree weather. I routinely travel like this and the motor runs fine. In my Gen2 I used 5w-40 rotella for diesels. Of course I destroyed my cat. I'm now considering 0w-40 mobil1 for my Gen 3. Any thoughts?