Energy Saver A/S Tires - finally !

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  1. jdcollins5

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    I checked with Sam's Club a couple of weeks ago and felt like I had won the lottery. They had Michelin tires on sale with the $70 rebate that Sam's gives you at the register. They also had the Energy Saver A/S tires in stock. So I had them mounted this morning. I will update this thread with the mpg info after giving the tires time to break in.

    When I needed to replace the OEM Yokohama's at 32,000 miles the Energy Saver A/S were not available at Sam's and were hard to find. So I installed the Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires. Great improvement over comfort, handling, and noise. I would recommend these tires to anyone looking for these features. BUT I lost 4-5 mpg. At the end of the life of the tires I gained back the lost mpg minus about 1 mpg. The tires had gotten noisy as the tread wore down like all tires. I was ready for a LRR tire again and an increase in mpg.

    I have already noticed a big decrease in tire noise with the new tire tread on the ground as expected. So glad to finally have a set of ES A/S on my car.
     
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    Doubt they'll need any break-in before delivering great mpg. ;)
     
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    We have ours at 40 psi, good mpg but I also notice they whine (?) a bit when running across finely grooved pavement. But overall no complaints so good luck on yours!
    When we bought them at Costco they came with a Michellin road-side assistance warrantee, so make sure you get that paperwork and have it explained to you, assuming that also applies to Sam's sales.
     
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    I have mine at 40/38. Sam's provides Road Hazard Warranty including roadside assistance. I have been dealing with Sam' s for years and fortunately have never needed roadside assistance.

    One time when I was having a vibration on a tire that I could not pinpoint, Sam's replaced all four tires when I objected to having to come in and change one tire at a time.

    I have a grooved bridge I cross every day going to work. I will have to listen for a whine.

    Thanks
     
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    gotta have something to whine about.;)
     
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    Off topic, i rater have some wine over some whine.......
     
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    They get better after break in but even without they are usually better than the ones they replace
     
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    31k on my OEM tires looking for tires before winter down to 5/32"
     
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    How much more milage do you get with the Energy Savers or are they just better at maintaining stock mpg?
     
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    They are 50-60I tires, depending on how bold you are willing to run them.

    And while they have decent wet traction, they are mostly picked for exceptional MPG
     
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    and less road noise. they probably won't increase your oem mpg's.
     
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    I am on my first full tank since installing the tires. I am already beginning to see mpg levels that I have not seen since the OEM Yokohamas and the tires have not had time to break in yet!

    I go over a bridge with a metal grate with vertical runners spaced close together, similar to grooved pavement. No whine but these tires wander more than most other tires I have used in the past. Only complaint so far.
     
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    how much did you pay?
     
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    They are soft you need to run higher psi
     
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    $480 total with Michelin $70 rebate, This included $60 for installation and Road Hazard Warranty.
     
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    40/38 is as high as I will run them. 44 rated.
     
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    Try up 2-3 PSI front
     
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    I will give it a try. I tried this on my other tires. Negligible impact to mpg and too hard of a ride.
     
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    That's why I think this "break in" thing is (mostly) tire shop smoke-and-mirrors. Some tires have good rolling resistance, and they have it from the outset.

    Other tires have so-so rolling resistance, and when you complain: the shop tells you they need to "break-in". So you go away (and that's problem solved for tire shop), and try harder, wring a bit more mpg out of them, convince yourself they're breaking in.
     
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    The important part is the 4-5psl difference btw front and rear. It creates issues if rear too stiff
     
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