Chevrolet Commits to Bolt EV Production...

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  1. frodoz737

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    Remember how Chevy dealers jacked the price on the "New Volt" and tried to sell buyers on the tax credits...they still do it. Tax credits on the Volt and PIP, which not all qualify for, is not the same as OTD price. Want my business, dump the shell games. It's hard to beat Honda and Toyota "overall" for reliability and cost of ownership. Had to many GM, Ford and Chrysler products to TRUST their latest and greatest. Respectfully, I will let you brave souls here be the guinea pigs on this on too. ;)
     
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    I'll believe the price when they start signing contracts. I'll say Chevy is going to do the same thing Tesla did. They show the concept car with all of the wonderful features stating it will start at $x. How much of what you see on the concept is going to be extra or an option?

    GM isn't entirely stupid. They saw what Tesla did and how well it worked. I expect every desirable feature will be extra or an option including paint and the front license plate holder. If the MSRP really is $30000 for the stripped car expect to pay $45000-$50000 or more to get what you want.
     
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    OK, that's a non-sensical price range but more importantly EVERY car maker has a loss leader, stripper model in their lineup that few people want but dealerships love to advertise.
     
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    I certainly wouldn't credit Tesla with inventing up selling. It has been done for decades.
    Every manufacturer advertises the base price and has available options that increase the price.
     
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    agreed, i wouldn't expect gm to be talking a loaded car with the price announcements. most mfg.'s say 'nicely equipped'.;)
     
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    right, they originally claimed different car altogether and not just plug in hybrid chevy cruze.

     
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    This isn't a compliance car like the RAV4-EV... GM actually wants to sell the Bolt... in all 50 states.
    At most it's going to be $35k sticker-. Once you factor in the Fed tax credit it will be in the $27k range final cost to the customer.
    Nobody is going to pay $50k for a Bolt.. . unless it's got a briefcase in the trunk with $20k inside as a parting gift from the dealer :D
     
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    “Has no one at GM ever heard the phrase ‘bucket of bolts’?”

    “I can see it now: ‘Police recovered a stripped Bolt today.’ ”

    “If it flops, we can call it the Dolt.”

    “I can hear it now: ‘Only a nut drives a Bolt.'”

    No Joke: Get Ready for the Chevy Bolt | The CarGurus Blog
     
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    Well at least we won't have to hear from Bob Lutz about it.

    In all seriousness, without the Tesla impacting luxury sales and the Leaf, we would never have seen GM move in this area. Then too Prius sales 4-5x Volt sure made GM look like dolts.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I'm surprised to hear that from you Bob.
    It isn't surprising that a new model, especially one with a plug, takes some time to overtake the king of the hybrids which has been on the market for a decade.

    GM, of course, made themselves look like dolts with their sky high sales predictions for the first couple of years.
     
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    you really believe that volt will overtake prius sales someday?
     
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    Oh, I don't know if it will overtake the Prius. I would be surprised if it doesn't close the gap some.
    I do feel confident that plugins will overtake hybrids within 10 years.
     
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    Regardless the type of vehicle, there are three priorities the average buyers considers when they purchase...real or perceived. Can they afford to buy/maintain/operate it, does it serve/fit their needs, do they like the way it looks/makes them feel.
     
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    hard to say whether plug ins will overtake hybrids, i suppose it depends on how hybrids develop. in ten years? there may not even be a volt or prius as we know them today.
     
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    True, to a point, after all in ten years we can expect to see two new Prius generations and two to three new Volt generations.
    I do see a lot more room for improvement in batteries than I do in the internal combustion engine.
    Thus I feel very confident in plugins taking a much larger market share than hybrids.

    When you get to specific companies, or worse yet models, too much can affect it.
    GM could continue doing a miserable job advertising for example.
     
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    so could toyota.;)
     
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    What does "plugins" refer to?
     
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    any car that can receive electricity from an outside source.