1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Counterfeit Navigation DVD on eBay

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by mycnam, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. GregP507

    GregP507 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2014
    3,002
    480
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I believe even the US military has fallen for buying counterfeit parts.
     
  2. LAPrius2015

    LAPrius2015 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    6
    7
    0
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I was debating whether the $1500 upgrade from the Two to Three would be worth it simply for the navigation, which definitely can't keep up with google maps. At the end of the day, it's a nice backup/fail safe in case google maps gets loopy, which it some times has a tendency to do.
     
  3. David Beale

    David Beale Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2006
    5,963
    1,985
    0
    Location:
    Edmonton Alberta
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    I think RaZa should tell us what he REALLY thinks. ;)
     
  4. DoubleDAZ

    DoubleDAZ Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    1,209
    322
    0
    Location:
    Peoria AZ (Phoenix)
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    All I know is it's pretty hard to navigate with Google Maps on a cell when there is no signal.
     
    kenoarto likes this.
  5. GregP507

    GregP507 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2014
    3,002
    480
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    There is a device you can use when the GPS signal is sketchy. It uses Bluetooth to feed a stronger GPS signal to the phone. Although it was originally designed for the iPhone, it works with Android as well.
    GLO | Garmin
     
  6. macman408

    macman408 Electron Guidance Counselor

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2010
    1,179
    367
    1
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    I know I've used Apple Maps when leaving cell coverage - it caches what it needs to when you start driving. I'd assume Google Maps may do the same, but I haven't used it in that situation.

    Of course, that doesn't help you if you're starting somewhere where there is no coverage.
     
  7. DoubleDAZ

    DoubleDAZ Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    1,209
    322
    0
    Location:
    Peoria AZ (Phoenix)
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I honestly don't know what or how much, if any, Google caches. I'm pretty sure neither Google nor Apple will cache enough data to get me from Phoenix AZ to Savannah GA though. :) And I don't know about Apple, but AFAIK, Google won't let you alter your route and add an interim stop with just the cached data. I also don't know how much of your data plan it uses when there is cell service. We take cross-country trips from here to FL/GA and back, and I can only imagine how much data that would require if I tried to reply on a phone vs my Nuvi or Prius.

    I did notice a limitation with the Prius today for the first time. I made a dry run to where my doctor moved her practice and the Prius only got me to the right street at the intersection even though the office was several hundred yards in from the corner. I had to look for house/building numbers to find it. I didn't have my Nuvi with me, but it usually takes me right to the address. Not sure why I hadn't noticed this before now.
     
  8. ghostwhowalks

    ghostwhowalks Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2014
    15
    1
    0
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    most of the iphones and androids made in last few years have very decent GPS build into them. The only place where a GPS signal starts to get sketchy is when you are travelling through huge buildings.

    "Google Maps on a cell when there is no signal" - Google Maps are online maps need data connection and with no signal there is no map data.

    For android devices, try Nokia's HERE. It is free navigation with offline maps.
    HERE Beta: Offline maps & nav - Android Apps on Google Play
     
  9. GregP507

    GregP507 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2014
    3,002
    480
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I don't have a glass sunroof, therefore my phone GPS works less well than the dedicated device when placed on the dash.
     
  10. DoubleDAZ

    DoubleDAZ Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2014
    1,209
    322
    0
    Location:
    Peoria AZ (Phoenix)
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Not technically true. You can save map areas to "your places". Maximum area size is 50km x 50km, but I don't know if there is a limit to the number of areas that can be saved. You can zoom and pan these areas to find restaurants, some stores, etc. When you select one, it will show where it is in relation to where you are if you are in the area and have a GPS signal. Unfortunately, turn-by-turn navigation isn't available, but it can still be useful in a pinch or when you just want to avoid using your data service.
     
  11. GregP507

    GregP507 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2014
    3,002
    480
    0
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I've used Google Maps in some very sketchy areas, and I was surprised how it managed to pinpoint my location well enough for me to find my way out of the bush. We were 4 hours from the nearest town in northeast Alberta, on foot and 3 hours from the vehicle. Most of the time, there was no cellphone reception at all. We decided to take a shortcut back to the truck, and I thought a satellite view of the area might help us find our way back, but I was doubtful that my phone could load the satellite view. Surprisingly, it was able to pull enough bits from the air, here and there to bring up the aerial view, and we were able to find the shortest way back.

    P.S. The phone was an HTC Desire HD, with an all-metal body, so the reception was even more surprising.
     
    DoubleDAZ likes this.
  12. mycnam

    mycnam Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2013
    111
    17
    0
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    I still think a dedicated GPS without the need of cell network is necessary. I just got a refurbished Garmin over Black Friday as backup.
     
  13. 3prongpaul

    3prongpaul Hybrid Shop Owner, worked on 100's of Prius's

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2010
    954
    724
    1
    Location:
    Boulder Hybids, Boulder, CO
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    IMHO the factory Nav blows big time. Especially the fees for updates.

    A smartphone with the WAZE app is a much slicker solution, especially with real time traffic info and a windshield or dash mount for your phone.
     
  14. Najeeb

    Najeeb Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2016
    8
    2
    0
    Location:
    Ontario, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Technology
    For me, I personally didn't want to shell out $160+ for a navigation disk, and getting an upgrade was a necessity since my house simply doesn't exist on the 2008 disk that came with my Prius.

    So, I did end up buying a counterfeit one (for $27 I believe, including shipping), and suffice to say it works just as well as an original. No complaints here.
     
    kenoarto likes this.
  15. kenoarto

    kenoarto Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    1,416
    398
    0
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    II
    You can actually download all the google maps to your phone. No need for a signal.