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New 2015 Prius 4 - Numerous Audio System Problems

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by 10jed, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. 10jed

    10jed New Member

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    Hi all. I’m new to this forum, and just bought a 2015 Prius 4 a few days ago and have been struggling to get the media system working as advertised. It seems buggy as crap. I’m trying to use an iPhone 4S running the latest version of IOS (8.1.2). Here are my observations (some of which others have reported in this forum):

    1. The dealer made a big deal about the Entune features and demonstrated a bunch of them by pairing his phone over Bluetooth. Turns that this only works with Android phones. Toyota is not very upfront about this, but a web search (which brought me to this forum) indicates that in order to utilize Entune wirelessly with an iPhone, you need to create a personal hotspot on your phone and then find the arcane DUN/PAN setting under the Connect for Internet option for your paired device. (Presumably this means it’s using the local wi-fi network my iPhone creates, rather than Bluetooth. Good thing AT&T is allowing tethering these days at no additional cost with their data plan.) And even with the hotspot enabled, the requires Bluetooth to be connected for the internet apps (Entune) to function; it doesn’t function via USB.

    2. Bluetooth functionality for music playback from my iPhone works unidirectionally; i.e., as long as I use my iPhone’s Music or Podcast app to control discovery and selection of title to play, it seems to work okay*. But the Prius display options to List and Browse are greyed out. On order to utilize the Prius touchscreen to access my iPhone’s audio library, I need to attach a cable to the USB port and switch the Prius to IPOD mode.

    3. Using the IPOD selection and USB cable is flakey. Sometimes it gets stuck loading the metadata from my iPhone’s library for display and I need to exit and restart IPOD mode (or power off the vehicle and then power it on again.) When it works, it does allow me to navigate my phone’s audio library from the Prius touchscreen (unlike in Bluetooth/wireless mode). (*)However, if I have Bluetooth turned on, all sorts of havoc ensues: playback stutters, the play/pause button stops working, the Prius display shows the seconds incrementing as if the music is playing, but there’s no sound playing through the speakers, etc. I finally found a passage in one of the manuals stating that with the iPhone, running the USB cable and Bluetooth together may be unstable. Wth? This means I can’t use the USB port to power my iPhone when connected via Bluetooth.

    4. Often when attempting to use the IPOD mode with a USB cable, I get an abrupt message that "Power consumption of USB device too high. USB device will therefore be turned off." Sometimes it turns the audio system off entirely. How can a USB port not be designed to power a frigging iPhone? (I’d understand if I had connected an iPad, perhaps.)

    5. The User Manual states that if you have the JBL sound upgrade in the DSP menu you can turn Surround Sound on/off. However it doesn’t appear (only Automatic Sound Leveler). The dealer’s service tech said he guessed that’s because this JBL system doesn’t have a sub-woofer. (If so, the User Manual wasn’t QA’d very thoroughly.)

    6. Toyota’s compatibility matrix states that I should be able to use the TEXT features of the phone app (with one exception: can’t send a text). But no TEXT features work.

    Bottom line is, as long as I never connect to the USB outlet (and instead use a 12V adaptor to power the phone) and use both Bluetooth and a personal hotspot together, I can mostly get things to work.

    When I presented this to the dealer, they ran a diagnostic and concluded that everything works just fine and the problem must be my phone or a bad USB cable. I subsequently tested with 3 different phones (2 4S’s and a 5S) and 3 different USB cables. The behavior of the 4S’s was consistent. When I connected the 5S to the USB port, the IPOD selection remained greyed out and didn’t function at all. This totally contradicts the compatibility matrix on their website.

    Am I nuts for expecting that the system function as advertised, or that at a minimum the dealer admits that it’s really buggy and poorly supported, and then offer to compensate me in some way? The only thing I can conclude is that a lot of owners either never bother to try out all these features, assume they’re simply operating the system wrong, or don’t care. Else how can Toyota get away with delivering a software-centric user interface which doesn’t adhere to even minimally acceptable industry standards for quality?

    Any suggestions out there for where to go from here? Other than the audio console I really like the car, but feel cheated by paying for features that don’t work. What’s your experience with Toyota support; is there a regular cadence of software updates which I can reasonably assume will fix these bugs anytime soon?

    Thanks.
     
  2. bisco

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    your only nuts to expect it to work because more words have been written in priuschat about how poor the system performs, than the library of congress could hold. why don't you ask the service manager to hook someone else's iPhone up and make it work? find a saleswoman, she's sure to have one.
     
  3. Zedknepplin

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    Hi 10jed,

    I have a 2013 4 w/HDD NAV & JBL green edge, and I have an iPhone 4s. My experiences:

    1. You have to create an Entune account (first) and then log in to it via the phone for this feature to work, Start the Entune App on your phone, Plus pair with Bluetooth has to be working. Your salesman had used his Entune account via his phone & Entune APP, so they do not make this very clear. They tend to forget this as this is usually done once initially.

    www.toyota.com/entune

    I believe a Pandora account is needed as well, but iHeart Radio should work without an account. Remember this network traffic goes on your phones data plan. I dropped XM and use Pandora & iHeart radio now.

    2. Music & Bluetooth. This may be related to the version of Bluetooth in the head unit. Mine does not support album art or music control other than start, pause, repeat (from the head unit) for Bluetooth devices. To select songs or albums, I have to do this on the phone. My wife's Prius 3 'lower' version head unit shows album art and her Nav has 3d maps vs. my 'higher end HDD' unit?!

    NOTE: When I first got the car it took me quite a lot of playing, deleting, forgetting this device, etc. with Toyota support on the phone, to get Bluetooth to work right - but no joy. The solution I found later was to delete Bluetooth connection to the phone from the car, and the car Bluetooth from the phone. Next, I just paired the Bluetooth MEDIA DEVICE - NOT the phone. The car then saw the phone after that with the Bluetooth media player by itself. If I tried using Bluetooth connect to the phone FIRST, then media - it was not consistent with those connections.

    3. I notice if I select songs or do *anything* while album art is loading from the USB device, it does not like it and either goes 'Audio Off', resets back to the very first song on the USB device (I am using an old iPod), or drops the USB device until I restart the car. I tried switching OFF album art, but it did it anyway. I have no issues using Bluetooth and the phone together. *BUT*, I use Bluetooth for the phone, and a *separate* iPod connected as USB device. I >do not< connect the phone to the USB cable and use the phone Bluetooth on the *same phone* at the same time! Also, I keep a separate power converter plugged into the 12v port to charge the phone separate from the USB cable (mainly because the ipod is connected to the USB all the time).

    4. I have not had this issue.

    5. I did not find surround in my audio settings and I have DSP turned off per the manual's suggestion.

    6. My head unit receives and plays/reads text messages as well as it says some common phone acronyms like LOL, etc., but I cannot type a text message or respond to a text message from the head unit - safety concerns I guess.

    I can sense your frustration but the system does work most of the time. Mine still resets sometimes when listening or selecting tracks from the USB device.

    -Z
     
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  4. 10jed

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    Thanks for your replies. The dealer has been good about spending time with me to recreate the issues, and is now talking to district support to determine how to respond. For the most part I've settled on some awkward workarounds - using data tethering via Personal Hotspot for Bluetooth connectivity in order to utilize Entune; never connecting via USB cable while Bluetooth is running (and even there some problems persist with non-Apple cables); and relying on a 12V adaptor for charging instead of USB. Still no explanation why reading texts via the console doesn't work. I live in silicon valley, and the gap between the software culture here (inc. agile development/QA and basic transparency) and Toyota's software approach is pretty extreme, sadly...
     
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    Try this. ✌️&❤️
     
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    Entunes works on Iphone 6 Plus on IOS 9.1.I have a Persona 2015 without the JBL.
    But I had to struggle to get the entunes working.

    1) Update the car entunes to the latest firmware released on August 28th,download the file ,transfer to USB drive, plug it to car and install
    2) Have the latest entunes app on the phone
    3)set up hot spot connection on your phone.
    4) on your Car bluetooth menu, there is a @@ data icon to connect to the internet.
    click on that icon and connect the to internet data on phone.
    Step 4 is one time set up.

    Now every time you click on "traffic" or "slacker radio" app on car entunes, car connects to internet using the hot spot set up on the phone.
    May be there are other ways, but this was the only way I could work entunes without directly connecting through USB cable.

    The new firmware get rids of "Bing search" and now "Destination search" is the app they have instead.
    I use "Traffic" App a lot to monitor traffic, plus the navigation is not bad and will give real time updates.
    The new destination search is easy to use and can find places quickly.
    I haven't found use for any other apps.

    I personally would have preferred a JBL upgraded speakers on persona instead of the Entunes suite.
     
  7. Xterra72

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    Glad that works but hot spot is an option and cost extra for some carriers like Sprint. Unfortunately because of the extra monthly cost for hotspot, not everyone has it.