How Are PiP Drivers Perceived

growing pains.

 

Have any PiP owners been arrested for stealing electricity yet?

 

Yes, your post came across as If you thought you had the right to hog a spot because the PIP was PHEV so could manage without charging. Clearly not the case here so I appologize.

 

I love threads like this, leaf owners wanting HOV access limited to cars with at least 25 mile AER. Next you'll hear Tesla owners pissed with leaf owners cause they only go 60 miles or so. The fact they are whining about the slowest drivers on the planet makes me laugh. It just goes to show you that people always look to someone else to find something to complain about. This is especially true when it comes to people who feel entitled because they have actually convinced themselves that they are special. Read, anyone who bought any of these cars believing they are saving the world. The whole theory that people who drive cars with less AER, faster because of limited range is completely baseless. I'd argue that Leaf drivers, drive so slow because they made such a foolish purchase, that they drive with range anxiety at all times.

 

Wow!
Congratulations!!
I don't think I've seen that many assumptions in such a condensed package, with such broad generalities in quite some time.

 

Thank you, a completely baseless and ridiculous thread deserves an equal reply.

 

What gets me is how they make blanket statements about minimum capacity without taking into account how far the person actually drives.

If you have a 12-mile capacity and only drive 12 miles to the destination, that's an excellent use of capacity. Recharging before driving back makes perfect sense. Why in the world should you be required to have more in that case? For that matter, why would you plug in if you already have the capacity to return without?

What really gets me though is how members here who participate there serve as enablers. For example: "Yes, slower, because any faster than 61 MPH and they're blowing through gas at the rate of 1 gallon for every 50 miles, lol. But seriously, the first 5-6 miles of my freeway commute leaving downtown is always behind a PiP doing 60 MPH. After that 6 miles or so at freeway speeds they are out of battery and the gas engine fires up, then I think they finally speed up." Failing to respond with the correction information not only allows the misconception to continue to be spread, it also provides a bit of legitimacy to it.

The belief that benefit from plug-supplied electricity is lost entirely at speeds faster than 61 mph is successful greenwashing, where certain individuals intentionally misled about how the system actually works. The reality that it is allowed to continue is just plain wrong. Same goes with the "6 mile" range. Here, we know that is an exploited misunderstanding of the EPA rating. But the effort to make people assume that is the entire capacity available has been very successful.

It's quite irritating to read misleading statements. It's even more so when you know there are those who can stop them.

How much effort would it take to point out the system delivers +100 MPG at 65 mph. Come on. Someone needs to make the effort.

The same goes for pointing out the EV capacity. We all know here that the charge is far from used up entirely at just 6 miles.

 

Quick look there is a squadron of pigs flying over right now!

 

those are geese, they just eat like pigs.

 

Not to mention the other end. In the SF Bay Area, we have large numbers of Canada Geese who have decided that they really like the Bay Area year around and have given up migrating. Their droppings are a major nuisance, not to mention their aggressive behavior. (Sorry for the topic drift.)

 

Not unique to the Bay Area, I'm afraid...
Fortunately they eat like geese. Imagine the consistency of the droppings if they ate like pigs.

 

who doesn't like the bay area year round?

 

You don't like being 'goosed'?

I've never had one come after me but I've heard it is an occassional problem.

Maybe we can put diapers on them and then use it to make renewable electricity? And it creates new minimum wage jobs for economy...