Iraq Attack

:lol:

Guess the meeting isn't too secret is it?

I think they already worked out all the angles long ago...

 

I for one hope they don't get the Nuke. :angry:

Wildkow

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Apr 3 2006, 09:38 PM) [snapback]234546[/snapback]</div>

And if they are crazy enough to blow up hospitals etc.. they will definately use the bomb......

I hope the world wakes up soon.... safe today means death tommorrow..... war today, insures peace tommorrow. Which side of the roulette table do you stand?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(windstrings @ Apr 4 2006, 07:47 AM) [snapback]234584[/snapback]</div>

I sense an endless loop here. There's one thing I don't get: when all this war "gives fruit" and peace finally comes, that means that tomorrow will have become today. But, safe today means death tomorrow, right? so we need war again because war today insures peace tomorrow, right?

So, when do we stop?

And please don't reply with the simplistic "when all the bad guys are gone", because there's always someone out there who is (or looks to us like) a bad guy.

Arubinst

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(arubinst @ Apr 4 2006, 02:19 AM) [snapback]234609[/snapback]</div>

I don't understand what you mean by safe today and death tomorrow but I'm pretty sure war and conflict will never stop. Therefore, we need to stay the one with the biggest stick and to walk softly so that they won't hear us coming up on them when they get out of line.

Wildkow

p.s. It's that way because no one learns from history.

 

I hope the world wakes up soon.... safe today means death tommorrow..... war today, insures peace tommorrow. Which side of the roulette table do you stand?


This is a factual statment proven time & time again, But it's one of those things you can explain until hell freezes over & the pigs sprout wings.
Those agenst the war will remain on thier side of the line unless something happens to them or thier family due to a terrorist incident and they will be for a war to seek vengence for those affected. If the war takes to long thier vengence turns to compassion and they begin voicing thier opinion agenst the war again. (so I guess the anti war mongers do a full circle too)

What does the little ribbon car magnets say? Support our troops & freedom isn't free.... I see alot of these in my travels... There are still many who still support our actions..

 

I'll guarantee OBL and his gang of merry suicide bombers will hit us again just before the 2008 presidential elections. Any bets?

But instead of caving in like the Spanish, we will have a massive write in campaign for Michael Savage. We can then empty our prisons and send all our homicidal maniacs into Iran, Pakistan, and Irag and tell them not to come back. Any Mexican that wants to become a US citizen must spend 6 years in the military. Street gangs will be given all the crack they want and be put in charge of our nukes. Ted Kennedy will head up our alchohol, tobacco, and bridge inspection teams. Rap music will be piped into Saudi Arabia until they admit that its our oil. Louis Farrakhan will be forced to have sex with Madame Albright until he becomes a Catholic. When Martin Sheen finally passes the entrance exam for the University of Dayton he becomes the head of the Department of Education and Conspiracies.

Where am I going wrong?, I'll give you the last word.

 

You know, this isn't really about Iran/Iraq/Afghanistan at all.

It's merely a continuation of the Crusades.

h34r:

 

Someone please explain to me how Bush can embrace the nuclear renegade nations of Pakistan and India, and say Iran shouldn't have nukes?

Someone please explain to me why Israel should be the only nuclear power in the Middle East.

It was the US who started the nuclear arms race. Does that give us the right to be the arbiter of who else is "worthy" of possessing them?

Remember M.A.D. (Mutually-Assured Destruction)? Why not simply declare "it's none of our business; go for it"? Let everyone else develop, or buy, their nukes---and decide where to aim them.

It would be fun just learning of each nation's targeting scheme as it gets leaked.

Call it M.A.D. Deluxe.

 

I want to add one more aspect of purely ill-defined strategy in ME and it's vicinity.

Pakistan just went berserk about supposed US future deals with nuclear technology and India.

Pakistani news quakes about the issue for the past few days!

How in the world are we trying to maintain good relationship with Pakistan on the "War on terror" if this may go into effect, beats me.

 

Putting aside being a hawk or dove, I wonder how much do U.S. leaders think they can take on before economy blows up or number of soldiers available for deployment runs out. I guess you could take all the guys out of Korea and Europe to do Iran. Iran is much bigger than Iraq. What another country becomes an axis of evil? For example President of Pakistan is overthrown and turns anti US.

Basically I think we are near the limit of how much we can handle. Meanwhile Europe will pass us economically as we get taxed to death to pay for it all.

 

Musharraf has a lot on his plate! And, unlike Syria's Bashar Al-Assad, he's not a young man. Civil war, nuclear weapons issues, India, pressure from the religious conservatives, assasination attempts; bet he doesn't sleep well at night.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/02/world/as...=rssnyt&emc=rss

 

Europe? Their population will be ancient and imploding within another decade. They are already dependent on imported labor.

Think China. The next superpower.

The Chinese want the title, they've been preparing for it.
Why do you think they went nuts over winning the right to host the 2008 Summer Olympics?
Their economy either already is, or will soon be, self-supporting.
They have the population to provide the needed brain and muscle power.
China does not shrink from making decisions that hold moral dilemmas for the West. Will this new technology threaten the environment of the countryside? Will this policy cause thousands of farmers to starve? Should we jail all dissidents? Is there any reason not to clone our best scientists or soldiers?

Perhaps the US will be a bit player in the next series of big wars, between China and India.

A fast-fading star. That's us.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Spunky @ Apr 4 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]234888[/snapback]</div>

Totally disagree. The do not have the vast legal/regulatory structures we do. It's well known the Chinese have a way of "screwing people over" big time. Furthermore, within the last day or two, I read some article somewhere (I think it was in the times) that went off on how there was a serious labor shortage. Apparently crappy working conditions is part of it, amongst other factors (didn't read the whole article, daily I must scan hundreds of articles from a bunch of sources)

Potential: yes

Next big superpower: mmmm, I wouldn't be so quick to jump to that conclusion just yet...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 4 2006, 04:50 PM) [snapback]234895[/snapback]</div>

Squid, do you just write to write? Are you practicing your typing? You read something somewhere you don't remember where becasue you skim through hundreds of articles from bunch of sources. Very interesting and informative.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Apr 4 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]234905[/snapback]</div>

:lol:

Bite me.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imntacrook @ Apr 4 2006, 12:07 PM) [snapback]234715[/snapback]</div>

LMAO!

Oh and Sheen Sr will move from the west wing to real life and become the next president

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarinJohn @ Apr 4 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]234773[/snapback]</div>

Hmmmmm. . . preemptice strikes let me think about that . . . they hit or barracks, embassies, ships, killed our people and we did nothing then the WTC not once but TWICE and you call our actions pre-emptive :huh: :blink: :lol: You actually have to stop and think who is on the right side of this 'tit-for-tat' and then suggest that it's all a matter of opinion? You actually have no recollection of how well the diplomacy of the USA, the UN and the rest of the world which engaged Iraq turned out? Were you -_- ing or just :wacko:?

Wildkow