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Oil Leak or getting taken advantage?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by prince, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. prince

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    I have a 2011 Prius 3, just took in to get my tires rotated at 65k to an independent mechanic for the first time and he said they saw traces of oil but couldn't determine where it was coming from. They cleaned it up and want me to bring it back after driving it 150-200 miles to try to trace it.

    My question is, is this typical for a 2011 Prius 3 with 65k? I had Toyota check everything when I bought the car at 61k and they didn't find anything wrong.

    The mechanic did say it could be because of the cold something may have happened. Just want to make sure I'm not getting swindled here before trusting this mechanic.

    Thank you in advance!
     
  2. JC91006

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    Bring it back after 200 miles and see what they say. If they tell you at that time there's a leak, then go get a second opinion. You have to give this guy a chance before you can say he's ripping you off

    Did they actually see oil leak or just noticed your oil level was low? These cars have reported burning oil prematurely but it's not due to leaks
     
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    Ok, that sounds reasonable. Just making sure it's not one of those things where he is trying to tell me my cassette deck is broken and they can fix it when I obviously don't have a cassette deck in the car. Thank you!
     
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    I would think if they wanted to rip you off they would have offered to repair the car not wipe the oil off for free.
     
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    JC, they weren't changing the oil at this time and the guy said they just saw oil.

    adamace, yea that was pretty nice of them.
     
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    Yea my 8-track deck just threw a code.
     
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    when you bring it back, have him show you any oil before wiping it off. and no, it is not typical. in fact, it would be quite unusual. that doesn't mean he's lying though.
     
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    Assuming he showed you where the traces were found, you can monitor this yourself. ;)
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Priuses have a 10K oil change interval and.....well.....let's just say that gear-heads don't usually buy them.
    That means that some.....maybe many Priuses also have a 10K oil check interval...and then usually ONLY AFTER the oil has been changed.
    Priuses have a VERY small oil sump.
    My CFO's car has a 10K oil change interval as well, but that motor has a 6q sump....some 75% larger.

    That's more important than you may think.
    How many out there actually check the oil level before it's changed? What possible incentive does the (maybe) factory mechanic have in checking the oil level before it's drained?
    Remember, most factory mechanics are not hourly employees. This means that they're paid by the amount of work that they DO.
    In a fair and just world, they would see how much earl is in the sump BEFORE draining if only to detect and advise the owner that their car might have a drinking problem, and who knows?
    Maybe he/she might get paid to do some more diagnostic tests, and earn some more cabbage in the next paycheck.
    However (comma!!!) it's a little more complicated than that.
    1. ToyotaCare (think: 2 lies for the price of 1) doesn't pay much for the oil changes.
    2. Prius Owners buy the OEM Extended Warranty (a rip-off) in higher percentages because they tend to think (incorrectly) that the car is far more complicated and prone to nasty, expensive break-downs in the first 125,00 miles. Dealer Mechanics hate warranty work, because they have to use the warranty pay scale. No gouging the customer by the hour for troubleshooting.
    3. Toyota has rigged the game. Remember.....they only have to make the car last for a period of time past the warranty period, and far enough out as not to damage the Toyota brand. What do I mean by rigging the game?
    Define - "Excessive Oil Use." which is that amount that they have to fix under warranty. There's a REASON that it's something like 600 miles per US quart.
    Modern engines are pretty durable items. They'll run for a remarkable period of time while smoking like John Wayne.
    Usually cars die from other things.....rather like males and prostrate cancer.
    Except in extreme cases....males die with it, not from it.

    Leaks are easy to detect if not visually, then by smell.
    As often as Priuses burn/use oil, it's not as common for them leak oil.

    Has the car ever been wrecked?


    Good Luck!
    (Check your oil! :) )
     
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    Oil leaks are very common, but it only takes a drop to spread out and look like a lot. I don't pay attention to small leaks, particularly when they don't show me proof, but I do take note when the oil levels are down below where they should be.
     
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    One of the unfortunate side affects of today's "more reliable" vehicles and "free maintenance" is that people in general do not inspect their own vehicles...even less than previously.
     
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    then throw in an engine that only comes on once a week or so, and you've got a recipe for disaster!:eek: