Next car after pip?

A lot of new info released today:
GM says new Chevy Volt will be quicker and quieter
Next generation vehicle will be more efficient with bigger 4-cylinder engine

and....

Next-generation Volt more fuel efficient, longer range


and...

Official GM media release:
Next-Generation Chevrolet Volt Features All-New Voltec Propulsion System for More Efficiency
Debuting in 2015, new model will have increased EV range

 

One thing they have confirmed is that Volt 2.0 will recommend Regular gas vs. The current Premium recommendation.
More battery capacity, more CS fuel efficiency but no numbers yet.

Very little hard data though. Most of it is summed up by "wait for the Detroit Auto Show".

 

What's the re-sale market like for lease returned PIPs? Unless you really don't want to keep the car make a lowball offer below the residual and see if they bite.

 

it's horrible. typically around 20k for a 2 year old base and not too much better for the advanced.

thanks rob, that's pretty weak though. i don't trust gm. hopefully, it will have more range, i doubt cs mode will be a whole lot better, and the most important thing is size.

 

Tesla Model 3 FTW!

 

My next vehicle will most likely be 100% electric.

 

All the info on the Gen2 Volt also points to it still being a 4-seater.

 

Agreed, especially since GM's is keeping it a tight lipped secret- and the fact that the new battery pack is the same "T" shape as in the current Volt.
They let the new engine specs out, the new battery shape/size out, etc... but the 5th seat question is off limits... hmmmmm....

 

Kitty, that "29k" is typo, I hope!

 

I've already moved to a 2014 BMW i3 BEV. I'm keeping my 2012 PIP as my ICEmobile. Definitely nothing wrong with the Prius PIP, just not enough EV range. My i3 is all electric, with solid 85 mile range. Eighty five mile range is a bunch if you're driving local. As F8L mentioned, there are some first year issues with the I3 REx. I didn't need the REx option, and after five weeks and 900 miles, zero problems. Personally, my PIP just peaked my interest in EV, but 10-14 miles EV wasn't enough. I wanted 100% EV and the i3 was the perfect "current" BEV for me. I accumulated 75% EV miles out of 10,800 total in twenty months with my PIP. I was some what obsessed. Too much work and frustration. In retrospect, I wouldn't recommend the Prius Plug In, in it's current format (10-14 miles EV). I would recommend a Prius Hybrid. Even driving aggressively, you'll enjoy effortless outstanding mileage. I know, I was passed by many fellow Prii on the interstate, trying to make my work commute all EV.

 

I was referring to a balance owing now on a 2012 base model that sold for $32k after two and a half years, not the price of a new one. Sorry, i didn't make clear which of the figures I meant.

 

Based on NY offer

Accord Plug in lease $249 per month for 36 months. $3,299 due at signing.
Fusion Energi lease $247 per month for 24 months. $4015 due at signing
PiP lease $239 per month for 24 months. $1799 due at signing.

Test drive other vehicles, ask yourself what car you want.
If PiP makes good sense, I would try to buy out the current leased car. Make an offer, given how slow PiP sells here they might bite.

 

that's a pretty amazing price for the hyaccpi, based on msrp.

 

Our 2017 automobile replacement plan has a Tesla Model 3 or Model X to replace our Lexus ES, while holding on to the PiP.

This is contingent on our 6.7kW photovoltaic system generating enough to get us out of insane Southern California Edison top-tier rates (now around $.31/kWh).

Ironically, it now costs more to use my household AC to charge the PiP than to buy gasoline for the equivalent range. Fortunately, I know that gasoline prices will not be at this low a range for long.

 

Wow, may be time for some Solar.

 

There are a few more technical details and pretty transmission pictures on Volt 2.0 in a new SAE article:

GM unveils more efficient 2016 Volt powertrain - SAE International

 

anything on the larger body/chassis?

 

Nope. They haven't revealed anything yet about the vehicle dimensions, inside or out.