http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/03/28/toyota...tion=cnn_latest This is a little cheaper than I expected. I wonder how many future Prius owners will now become future Hybrid Camry owners.... this is a bit of an overlap in pricing. The Camry is bigger and more stylish than the Prius... Could this could even steal some '06 Honda Civic Hybrid sales too? Any thoughts?
I feel the same way about the Hybrid Camry pricing - a bit cheaper than I expected. I just put my deposit down for a Hybrid Camry with Toyota 101 in Redwood City. I drive a 2001 Prius with 82K on the odometer. I bought it new in January 2001. Gautam.
Let's hope Toyota Canada doesn't screw us over and price it at $36k like our Accord Hybrid (our HAH is priced more aggressively than the one in the States).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(clintd555 @ Mar 29 2006, 11:18 AM) [snapback]231768[/snapback]</div> Bigger, yes. More stylish? Maybe, if you are over 70 and like Oldsmobiles The only Toyota that is remotely stylish is the new Prius (and maybe the Scion B gets warmer.) The Prius is cool, the Camry is the opposite.
The Camino browser is not opening the data sheets on the different models at toyota.com. Anybody have a chance to figure out the HSD premium, and tax credit ? OK -- saw the datasheets with Safari. I'm really impressed with the array of safety features available across the entire model line. Except for VSC (which is an option on all non-hybrid trims), every other safety feature is *standard*. GO TOYOTA !! Camry does not interest me, but I'd say 4 cyl base model with VSC + auto transmission looks the best value; although the tax credit may change that conclusion. Anybody considering a V6 will have little reason not to pick the HSD model instead.
I agree. The Prius is the better balance of size, performance and visual appeal. The TCH doesn't meet CA HOV lane MPG requirements I believe. I'm glad though that Toyota didn't make a performance hybrid as the HAH.
The spec says 45 hp, or 21 kW. Google says 45 hp is 33.5 kW. Who is right ? It is probably 147 from the ICE, and 45 from the traction battery that sum up to 192 hp. The 21 kW seems like a typo, from the Prius HV. So HV battery power has increased 50%.
The hybrid camry has VDIM as standard, while the other Camry variants have VSC as an option. VDIM is a more advanced safety system as compared to VSC. Here is a quote from a web site that I fould by Googling: "One of the latest is Lexus's Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM). VDIM gathers input data from several vehicle safety systems that formerly operated independently, including Brake Assist (BA), the electronic throttle, and the anti-lock braking system. Plus, versus the company's VSC stability control system, VDIM factors inputs from a wider range of sensors - including brake pedal pressure, pedal stroke, and data from the Electric Power Steering (EPS) system, along with yaw rate and steering angle." Gautam.
Quite right, Gautam. Do you have any idea what kind of practical differences that might translate into ? Along the lines of maximum speeds going around the same slippery curve, for instance.
*COUGH* Did someone just say buick and camry in the same sentence? Ummm I don't think so. Stylish is subject to opinion, but to say a Camry is like a Buick is like saying a VW Passat, Accord, BMW 5 series or Mercedes is like a buick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(EricGo @ Mar 29 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]231846[/snapback]</div> Check out this URL. They tried out a car with VSC and one with VDIM and talk about how VDIM is a lot better. www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Techno_Beat/Stability_Control_Gets_Some_Finesse.S198.A9227.html Gautam.
I'm not sure about the Camry's VDIM but on the Lexus ones, they also have VGRS, Lexus' form of active steering. Combined with VDIM, the computer will make minor adjustments to the steering angle so that it can get you out of a corner better (on a track for example) or simply make acceleration with one side of the car wet and the other, dry less stressful. In the acceleration bit, the car will pull to one side since either side of the car is on different surfaces. With VDIM and VGRS, the computer will make the adjustment so that all you do is hold the steering wheel straight. No tugging or pulling.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(clintd555 @ Mar 29 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]232060[/snapback]</div> Me think a different target audience....:blink:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(clintd555 @ Mar 29 2006, 04:28 PM) [snapback]231849[/snapback]</div> Actually, many big buicks have copied Jaguar for 10-16 years...and someone said the Quattroporte looks like a melted Buick in front...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Black2006 @ Mar 30 2006, 02:01 AM) [snapback]232205[/snapback]</div> I agree. I think anyone who likes the unique styling of the Prius (or simply wants to stand out) would prefer the Prius, while those who like traditional styling (or don't like to stand out) would prefer the Camry. Some people don't like hatchbacks, so they refuse to buy a Pruis for that reason alone. For those who aren't stylistically conscious, I think it would come down to a utility/comfort/fuel economy/luxury trade-off. The Prius has better utility and fuel economy, but the Camry is more comfortable/luxurious. My .02 USD
The Camry hybrid, like the standard one, is a generic-looking four door sedan. Boring, insipd, bland, unexciting. :mellow: The Prius has a unique character. B)
