Hello everyone, Truly loving the Prius 2010 IV, which is the model w/the solar sun roof and upgrades. Have an opportunity of upgrading to a new plug-in model, with no upgrades. Intentionally leaving pricing aside to just discuss core components anyone thinks would be relevant, and a few questions listed below. • 3 Hour Charge for 10 miles ~ meaningful? • Entune a big upgrade to the 2010 dash system? • How involved (and expensive) would it be to install LED headlamps? • How involved (and expensive) would it be to install fog lights? • 2012 feedback states the daylight glare of the dash being a problem? Worse than 2010? • Any specific known issue a) in the 2010 not present in 2012, or b) in 2012 not present in 2010? • Homelink has been pretty handy... present in 2012 base plugin? Trade Offs - No sunroof (we really appreciate and use the sunroof often) - True powered leather in the 2010, moving to cloth manual seating. (lumbar missing?) Neutrals - Nav of the 2010 is so bad that it could go away 100% and that would be considered an upgrade.
You would need to add Homelink to the base model. I find Entune about as useless as the nav system, but that's just me. I typically get 13 to 15 miles on a charge, but the plug-in gets better mileage overall than the regular Prius. If you have a short commute or do a lot of in town short trips EV may work well for you. I added leather and Homelink through the dealer. Sounds to me like you might be better off keeping your car since you like the extras. Good luck, whatever you decide.
I have ENTUNE on a new 2014 Avalon XLE Hybrid Touring. As far as I'm concerned it is useless. I don't use it.
• 3 Hour Charge for 10 miles ~ meaningful? it is a gimmick for toyota to be compliance • Entune a big upgrade to the 2010 dash system? it is useless, but cool option to have • How involved (and expensive) would it be to install LED headlamps? it is easy but expensive, for used junk yard one it is about 200-300, new is about 500 each side • How involved (and expensive) would it be to install fog lights? always can go with aftermarket which is 100 or less and shouldn't be hard to install. • 2012 feedback states the daylight glare of the dash being a problem? Worse than 2010? same no change • Any specific known issue a) in the 2010 not present in 2012, or b) in 2012 not present in 2010? same no change • Homelink has been pretty handy... present in 2012 base plugin? buy one off ebay for 50 and wire it yourself.
• 3 Hour Charge for 10 miles ~ meaningful? it is a gimmick for toyota to be compliance It's not a gimmick... Help increase MPG to over 100MPG. Even without charging, plug in get better MPG than regular prius.
It's a gimmick if you don't charge it right? put it this way, if you don't charge it, it come out the same as a regular prius. And come on, in order to get the 100 mPG u need to charge it again and again and again. But then again the plug in prius get the better battery which is a ilt-ion then the nick metal battery. But to me as a PIP owner, I just feel it is a gimmick more then anything else. 11 miles can't get u anywhere and at least if it is 40 it is better cause most ppl travel at least 40 miles
I work 18 miles away from home, charge at home and charge at work when I get to work... Weekend only charge at home, drive around 100 plus miles both saturday and sunday... My last tank MPG was 106... Call it what ever you want, it works for me... Don't get me wrong, I used to think that before I bought my PIP... what can 15 ev miles do... Depends on your commute, it will help a little or it might help a lot.
Even if you never plug it in, you benefit (higher mpg) on the PiP due to the higher regeneration capacity of the LiIon battery. This works two ways: 1) you can get harder braking without the system engaging the friction brakes, due to the LiIon battery being able to take a charge faster than the NiMH battery on the standard Prius; 2) when going down long hills, there is someplace useful to put the energy, whereas on the regular Prius, the battery would be full and the energy would have to be dissipated with engine compression braking.
"nufan2222 - And come on, in order to get the 100 mPG u need to charge it again and again and again." And what does one do with a Tesla, or a Leaf, or a Volt in order to get fantastic mileage? Sounds like you bought the wrong vehicle.
Nufan, your post makes one wonder why you own a PiP in the first place. If "most people drive 40 miles," (where and under what circumstance?) then those people won't benefit from a plug in hybrid the way "some people" do. OTOH, " most people" don't drive hybrids at all, but instead drive ICE powered vehicles. Sounds like you didn't exercise due diligence in your selection process. The PiP is designed to get better than average mileage under varying uses, for short trips at low speeds on battery power alone, but with adequate range for longer trips or commutes while behaving more like a regular Prius hybrid. It all comes down to individual needs for transportation and what best meets those needs. "Different strokes........"
i have a 15 mile commute, all ev, how is that a 'gimmick'? why did you dig up this thread? o/p never even came back.
I just wish it get at least 40 miles on the charge. but ya got the pip for that 0% interest deal and i didn't even have to put any down on the car, so it was a win/ win anyway. The car came out the same price if i were to buy a hybrid camry
