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Warning Lights Came on while driving, did not lose power

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by CJ33, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. CJ33

    CJ33 New Member

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    I've searched this forum and found many somewhat similar instances, but nothing identical to what I experienced yesterday.

    I was driving my 2006 Prius on the highway (120,000 miles on it). I'd been driving about 10 minutes and all of a sudden, the dash warning lights lit up.
    Red triangle with exclamation point.
    Yellow circle with exclamation point.
    Yello check engine.
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    The car did NOT lose power. It kept driving fine with no noticable change in how it operated. Fuel consumption stayed the same. Braking worked fine. I had a completely full tank of gas (had just filled it up before I got on the highway). Temperature outside about around 60 degrees.

    I kept driving to my destination (another 20 miles at highway speeds).

    The car sat parked for about 3 hours.

    I returned to the car, started it up. The same warning lights appeared, except for the Yellow circle with exclamation point.
    Plus, this time I noticed on the energy monitor screen the graphic of the red car with the exclamation point.
    [​IMG]

    Again though, everything seemed to be working fine. While the car had been parked for 3 hours I did some browsing through the owner's manual and saw a notation that is the warning lights were only yellow and not red that it was okay to proceed with caution to the nearest dealer.

    That made me decide to chance the drive back home.

    I left and started driving home, about 35 miles away, on the highway.

    It drove fine the entire way. About 25 miles into the drive home (about 25-40 minutes) the Yellow circle with exclamation point appeared again.

    When I got home, I shut the car off. I turned it back on and the Yellow circle with exclamation point did not come on, but the other warning lights did.

    I read in the common problems section of this forum the recurring issue of cars losing power and all the same lights coming on:
    Problem: Car loses power. Master warning light (red triangle) appears. Brake and VSC lights may appear.
    Symptoms: See above
    Frequency: After car has been driven for a while, especially in hot weather
    Diagnostic: DTC P0A93, Inverter Cooling Performance
    Cure: Replace inverter coolant pump
    Other information/Alternate diagnosis possible: This is a popular reason for Prius to stop dead, usually in hot summer weather. We've seen a sufficient number of inverter coolant pump failures so I would say that if you have more than 100K miles logged and you wish to keep your car in top condition, consider replacing this pump now as a preventive maintenance move.

    However, like I said, I didn't lose power. The car drove fine for about 50 miles at highway speeds and the temperature outside was in the 60's.

    What exactly do these lights mean? Why would my car drive fine if there was really a problem?
     
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    Also, I should note that I had the stock 12V battery changed out for a new Yellow Optima battery about 2 months ago.
     
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    Can be many things. Do you have a code reader at all?

    Also, it is generally a very BAD idea to run the car with warning lights. The car is saying "hey buddy, something is screwed up here" and you are just cracking the whip and disregarding all warning info. If it wasn't important, it wouldn't light up like a christmas tree to get your attention.

    I would pull the codes then restart the car a few times to see if the codes clear or persist.
     
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    Odd, the Toyota manual says the exact opposite.
    It says it's safe to drive the car to a dealer if the warning lights are yellow and not red. In this case, to get to a dealer I had to drive back to my house, since it's a block away. I figure I might as well research first before a dealer gives me the run around and charges me inflated labor charges.

    What do you base your response on?

    I don't have a code reader.
     
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    seilerts Battery Curmudgeon

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    The reason that the car kept going is that your have a fresh Optima to keep the computers alive. Most often, a 4-6 year old car with the original 12V battery will stop dead within minutes of tripping P0A93. The reason is that P0A93 takes the 12V DC-DC converter offline, as well as scaling back the duty cycle of the inverter. It is then up to the 12V battery to provide several amps of power to operate all vehicle computers, sensors, and lights. An old battery sags under this demand and in short order computers will shut down. You wouldn't necessarily notice loss of power unless ascending a steep grade.

    The inverter cooling pump is a recall item that a dealer will fix for you for free. Take it to one as soon as possible. Short distances are okay, particularly after the car has cold soaked.

    It also takes A/C offline -- did you happen to notice that?
     
  6. Patrick Wong

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    You were lucky that the ambient temps were moderate, hence your car could continue to perform during your trip. The installation of a fresh 12V battery also helped.

    It is likely that the inverter coolant pump had failed. Have you received the LSC (limited service campaign) letter, asking you to schedule a dealer service visit so that the pump could be replaced? This will be done at no charge.

    Since the OP reported ambient temp was in the 60s, the AC compressor probably was not running (or if running, not doing much work.)
     
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    I drove it to the dealer for the pump recall - they replaced it and that did the trick!
     
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    You took it to the dealership and they replaced it for free? Was it a recall on all 2006 Prius model Toyotas? This just happened to me a few minutes ago and I need to know what to do to fix it, but don't have the money. Please respond. I don't want to drive my car if I don't need to because I can't afford for it to die on me.
     
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    The inverter coolant pump was the subject of a recall. You can assess its condition by making the Prius READY and looking for fluid turbulence in the inverter coolant reservoir. If you do not see turbulence then the pump has failed.

    I suggest you have your car evaluated by a Toyota dealer so that you will know the cause of its problems. If that pump is the root cause then it should be replaced at no charge to you.
     
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    Thank you so much. I'm going to go check when I get off work.