He also said that if he were in a Polo diesel he'd have got 34 mpg. A Polo is one model down from the VW Golf. Probably the size of a Yaris. So if such a car is getting less mpg's than a Prius, then that's good. Volkswagen Polo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I going to venture that if VW could get better mpg out of the XL1 (260+/- mpg) with a gas/hybrid, they would have. Weight would seem a big factor too...all else being equal. Though this is a limited production, expensive test vehicle, the point remains.
The XL1 is a PLUGIN, with a 30 miles capable battery. The EU doesn't make difference when they test a plugin car, so a Prius PIP is rated 112 MPG-US and a Volt 195 MPG-US (1.2 l/100km). If the next Volt will have a bigger battery, it will probably beat the XL1 rating while having 4 or 5 comfortable seats.
If I was to get a Diesel right now I might get a Cruze. I've heard too many horror stories about VWs. I don't think anybody else sells a Diesel car in the US do they?
Plus Audi on the not cheap side. We were supposed to get the Mazda6 diesel, but it has been delayed. While its emissions without SCR and DEF are good enough for Japan and Europe, they are having trouble getting it to pass for the US. Mazda sit might be trying to get it certified. While not a car, but also not a large size work truck, the 2015 Colorado is getting a diesel option. I want to say it's a 2.7L, but that might be the economical Ecoboost for the new F150. Whatever, it's a bigger 4cylinder than the 2L in the Cruze.
If you are wanting something with more power, but similar try a prius, larger and a lot more power try the hycam (40) mpg on regular gas = in fuel cost to a diesel getting 45-50 mpg, want a large car the avalon hybrid gets 37 mpg and is larger than the camry, very nice to drive. I would not buy the diesel myself, the combined mpg is not as good as hybrid, if you drive lots of hwy then they may make sence. I really like my prius c, and my wife loves her 2012 hycam. That is why I am stuck on toyota hybrids. they have been great for us.
Remember when they say clean diesel, they mean clean for a diesel. The clean diesel pollutes far more than the Prius Hybrid, and that fact should be taken into consideration when you are about to buy your next car.
Volvo decided to change their diesel engine with petrol engine in their plug-in hybrid drive train (maybe because of target Chinese market maybe not). Diesel V60 plug-in hybrid: - 2.4 L turbo diesel with 215 HP - 6-speed auto transmission - 50 kW electric motor - 11.2 kWh battery capacity - 0-100 kmh - 6.1 s - NEDC fuel consumption 1.8 l/100 km or 49 g CO2/km Petrol S60 plug-in hybrid: - 2.0 turbo petrol with 238 HP - 8-speed auto transmission - 50 kW electric motor - 11.2 kWh battery capacity - 0-100 kmh - 5.5 s - NEDC "estimated" fuel consumption 2 l/100 km or 50 g CO2/km
Erm don't diesels have to meet the same emission requirements as petrol in the US? The days of diesel emissions being 20x or 200x higher are long gone (or only just going here in Europe). Also, the new diesels are much cleaner for soot emissions than petrol cars. The benefit of a hybrid is that the engine will be off more in crawling traffic. But wouldn't you rather someone buy a new clean diesel that gets 40+ mpg than buy an SUV that gets 17?
Many gasoline cars pollute more than a Prius. Some even pollute more than a diesel here. US regulations do not break emission limits up by fuel type as in Europe. Diesels have the same limits has gasoline which means are diesel cars are the cleanest in the world, and some models approach and might technically meet SULEV.
From Toyota UK site, the Diesel model is available only with a manual transmission and 0-62 mph is 12.5 seconds. Auris HSD is automatic and 0-62 mph is 10.9 seconds. Also, remember that a gallon of Diesel fuel has about 15% more energy than gasoline. In the city cycle, HSD would be superior with better fuel economy and automatic tranny.
That's an exception rather than the rule. If you compare the emission of Auris Diesel to Auris HSD, we'll see a huge difference.
Appreciated. The Auris is Euro5. The new Euro 6 diesels that are being released this year virtually match petrol. But this time next year things will be better.
You mean because the engine on a hybrid is often off? Yeah, that's a benefit for sure. A lot of cars here (petrol & diesel) have the 'start/stop' system pretty much as standard. Personally I don't like it as it's no use in slow traffic and is a crude method of saving fuel, but it works for some and it does indeed save fuel when you're sat at the traffic lights.
Not only that, Atkinson cycle is cleaner than Otto cycle. The purpose of the thread was to compare Auris diesel vs HSD model right? The fuel economy may be similar but the emission should be totally different, especially NOx.
Just been to check the emissions of the new Euro 5 Auris and it's not good reading lol. Refer to page 22 http://cdnlive.toyotaretail.co.uk.s3.amazonaws.com/pdf_files/auris.pdf Nox for the Auris HSD is 5.7 mg/km NOx for the Auris 1.4 litre diesel is 112.7 mg/km NOx for the Auris 1.6 litre petrol is 7.3 mg/km and for the 1.3 litre petrol it's higher at 12.7 mg/km So it appears the diesel in the Auris is one of the dirty ones. How many hybrids can you have running to make the same emissions as one diesel? A lot. Shame Toyota UK are so poor for diesel emissions. Other manufacturers are much cleaner.
Would someone please tell me where to find passenger car and light truck specific emission outputs listed for 2014 vehicles? Maybe my Google skills are just not up to the challenge today.
