Grammys - I must be getting old

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  1. hkmb

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    Oh dear.

    I think this is the first time I've actually liked both the winners of the Best Song and Best Album in the Grammys. In the past, I've always thought of the Grammys as dull mainstream nonsense.

    Does all of this mean I'm getting old? Or might it mean that mainstream music is getting better?
     
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    no matter, its still a bunch of self appreciation...

    "hey, lets give each other awards, and then broadcast it on tv"

    I must be getting old...there may have been only a few bands/singers whos name I even recognized....and that was only because they've been in the news for some reason or another, and it wasn't because of their music
     
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    Watched it and was entertained somewhat. Don't get the shampoo commercial Taylor Swift seemed to be doing but like her music. Sang along with Carole King and Beatles/2.

    What exactly is a "Daft Punk" anyway?
     
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    :confused:I agree, and hate to be a stick in the mud. Too many awards shows with everyone trying one up each other. Too much hype and most celebrities don't live in the real world or abide by the same rules as most citizens do. I'm not jealous by any means, just sick of all the hype and fuss over "those" people.
     
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    I agree with you and Marc about that. And the whole non-entity / self-congratulatory thing reached a new low this year, I think. While I agree with the sentiment of "Same Love", marrying loads of people at an awards ceremony was deeply crap. I don't want this to get moved to FHoPolitics, so let's just say that we all know that people argue over whether marriage equality undermines the institution of marriage. But I think there can be little doubt that marrying 30 couples at a music awards ceremony does undermine the institution of marriage.

    And having a live performance of (and a best-song nomination for) "It's OK to Rape Women Sometimes" by Robin Thicke completely undermines any political correctness from the "Same Love" stunt.

    But as far as the music was concerned, I'm just worried that the best song and best album were both ones I liked. This has never happened before, and I sincerely hope it never happens again.
     
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    I don't feel that that a mass wedding or some billion dollar wedding of the century or a "get married by elvis" in vegas will affect, lessen or undermine MY marriage in any way shape or form...but that's just me... It is tacky though......

    IMO music nowaday's sucks...but then again. I loved the 80's and early 90's pop and clssic rock and that's about all my ipod is loaded with and my fave artist is Jimmy Buffett. So not exactly the target demographic of the Grammy's...
     
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    Well, no, it doesn't endanger anyone's marriage. But there are so many people who say that gay marriage might cheapen the institution or whatever, and it clearly doesn't, but a silly mass wedding at an awards ceremony does. And yes, tacky is a good word.

    Well, I'd think that this makes you the Grammys' key target demographic. From everything I've seen over the years, it seems to focus on old-fashioned stuff and shies away from innovation.

    But I agree that American music these days is a bit rubbish. I think part of the problem is the structure of your radio industry: it means that the way to get airplay is to release something that won't offend listeners to commercial stations, and which has been market-tested to within an inch of its life. You've got your genres, and within each genre, everything sounds the same: there's no way that I could tell a Katy Perry song from a Taylor Swift song from a Smiley Virus song from a Disney song, for example. The few American artists that are innovative and interesting tend to break through in other countries first and then succeed at home afterwards.

    But music in Australia and Britain is as good as it's ever been just now. I think having State-funded radio stations playing new music really helps.
     
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    I can count on one hand the amount of time I've listened to music on the radio in the last month. Its usually because my ipod wouldn't link up. At home my shop I've got a ipod with pandora streaming. I just can't get my head around todays music....sheesh I sound like my parents... LOL
     
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    Yes, and I can understand why. I've really struggled to find any decent music radio in the US. But I think it is a product of there only really being commercial radio. Commercial radio here in Australia is dire too. But the State-owned stations in Britain and Australia have loads of interesting, varied new stuff.
     
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    Not only music... :)
    Unfortunately, we don't do state-funded media very well at all.
    There is some great programming here and there but this is in spite of, rather than because of the formerly insulating properties of public funding.
    I hear more commercials on public TV and Radio now than I do on the evil "commercial" outlets, and like American AM radio it's more and more talk and less and less music.
    The only reason they stand head and shoulders above our commercial outlets lies in the fact that the latter is so pathetic.

    Me?
    I think that the NSA is tinkering with subliminal mind control. :eek:
    Nothing else can possibly explain the 180-degree course change that my President did on the subject or the fact that the likes of Senator Feinstein find them to be wholly satisfactory!

    Need more proof?
    Watch Duck Dynasty. :D


    Thank GOD for streaming media! :D
     
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    Ah, yes. I listen to NPR sometimes when I can't sleep. The fact that there are adverts on NPR confuses me a bit. But we do have a similar thing here. ABC TV and radio are State-owned and have no adverts, but SBS TV is State-owned and does have adverts.

    I think having media that's independent of advertisers does encourage innovation that you can't get if you have to market-test everything. While the music thing is obvious, it goes for TV too: I don't think the BBC's Sherlock could have been made by a commercial channel. (Actually, Elementary demonstrates that pretty clearly.)

    I think streaming media creates an interesting new paradigm here, because you're not reliant on a TV station that has to decide whether it's taking a risk or not: streaming media gives producers the opportunity to find an audience for really quite niche stuff, which is great.

    I've tried Duck Dynasty a couple of times. I just don't get it at all.
     
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    I was switching channels just as the Daft Punk space-suited duo was being announced and standing up. First thought: "Wth?" I didn't keep watching. I'm too old to even want to try to understand that, whatever it/they are about.
     
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    That's one of the interesting things about Daft Punk. If you're in your 50s or 60s and liked disco in the 1970s, you're not too old to understand them at all.

    The lead single from the album that won the Grammy wouldn't have sounded out of place in 1979. That's not a criticism: I like it. But it's so 70s disco that it's even got Nile Rodgers playing in it, and he's at least a million years old.



    Oh, and if your first thought was "Wth?", rather than "Good heavens!", you must be young enough for music awards.

    And of course, as my original post suggested, the Grammys are full of old-people music anyway.
     
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    Hehehe. Thanks for the video and the info. The video half didn't do much for me though the song was fairly pleasant. I still don't get the purpose of the helmets/costumes, even though I do enjoy appearances of The Stig in Top Gear. My "Wth" comes more out of the fact that 70% of the people I work with are under 30. Perhaps "OMG" might have been a middle ground reaction. I consider myself still too young for a "Good Heavens." As for awards shows, the entire genre of all of them I think has jumped the shark.
     
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    Daft Punk is like the Blue Man Group, they don't appear without hiding their identity.
     
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    You're welcome - glad you enjoyed it.

    They're not costumes. One of them is actually The Stig. He does the singing on his days off. And that's what he looks like: he's not wearing a helmet; he just has a funny-shaped head.

    I quite understand you're Wth issues. All my staff are much younger than me, but they don't do any WTFing because they don't speak much English. But their influence does mean that I occasionally find myself speaking entirely age-inappropriate Chinese to the older people who run government ministries and State-owned enterprises.