So I have had this for a little over a week. It's 90 degrees F here and I fully charged it in the morning. Started the car and it displayed Charge Complete but the available range showed up as 11.4 miles. I took it for a drive on the side streets and averaged about 28 mph. Here the terrain is very flat. Did a lot of pulse and glide to see by how much I could stretch the range. After all the acrobatics was finished ... The range was 12 miles. I suspect if I had not done all that gliding tricks ... The range would have been much less. So here is the question ... I see folks here claiming that they get 14 to 15 miles in summer. How is that possible when I could only get 12 miles even after doing all the tricks on a flat terrain. Any clues.
Turning the fan would cut about 1.5 miles range for me. The estimate shown drops right after I turn fan or AC.
No pulsing and gliding. That is for HV mode only, not EV. In EV you want to keep a nice steady slow pace. And yes 15+ miles is definitely possible even with the AC on.
No pulse in EV. The harder you press the accelerator the more battery you will use up. Want to extend EV range, drive like you have no breaks. Steady at 35 and lower. iPad ? HD
where are you? i find that 90 degrees and high humididity make the a/c eat up a lot of juice and take a few miles off my ev distance traveled. i can go 16-18 miles at around 23 mph in a little more moderate weather, using a/c just enough to keep the inside reasonable.
Whether you're driving a PiP or a standard Prius, it has two fuel tanks; one holds gas and the other holds electrical energy (battery). IMO, you shouldn't be focusing on how many miles you could get on EV. Instead you should be focusing on how to maximize the full potential of the fuels that you're carrying. Assuming that your daily commute is 20 miles or more, at this distance, you will be required to use both gas and electricity. In general, when power requirement is high, you should use the ICE, when power requirement is low, you should use the battery. If you follow this rule, you should be able to achieve high overall MPG. IMO, you shouldn't use the battery for hard acceleration to get on the freeways. ICE is more efficient at this task. However, once you get to the cruising speed, you definitely would want to switch to battery. In the situation where you travel 15 miles or less before you reach a charging station, you should just go full EV and forget about using gas.
I am in the SouthEast. Bought the car in MD and drove down. LOL. So it looks like in order to get a EV-only range >13 miles, I need to be driving on country roads where I don't need to brake for stop lights ...or need to speed up to meet minimum highway speed limits. In other words, in most towns you cannot drive at a steady 35 mph for a long stretch.
I think there's something else going on. Today I drove 13.6 miles to a charge station and had 4 miles left. There were hills and at least 7 red lights on the drive. Temps were almost 80 but I didn't use AC You didn't say but any passengers ? I noticed a big loss of range the other day when carting around a 200lb relative !
I think you may have a point worth revisiting. I had my 16yr old riding along. His and my combined weight - about 300 lbs. We were using the AC. I reset the trip meter before we started and as I started moving the EV miles-remaining counter started falling relatively rapidly. Does toyota have a way to test the battery? I bought my 2012 PiP-A used from a dealer that mostly used it as a loaner vehicle. So I suspect they rarely charged the EV battery.
1) the ev range meter is almost meaningless, go by how many actual ev miles you can drive before the ice comes on. 2)no and there is nothing wrong with your battery. a second passenger will have a fairly large effect on range.
Yes. That is why I reset the trip meter so I could calculate actual EV miles. The EV range meter dropping faster than the rate at which the trip meter was increasing was just a clue that the range was going to be at the low end of the scale.
i can drive my 14.8 mile round trip commute in all ev if: temps are between 70 and 85. otherwise, it's too cold and the battery is less effective, or it's too hot and a/c eats it up. but at moderate temps i might have a mile or two leftover. my commute consists of 4 miles rolling hills at 40 mph, 1/2 mile uphill to the highway, 2 miles highway at 50 mph and .9 miles at 25 mph. and the reverse coming home.
yes, when that happens, you are using more juice than normal, i.e. uphill, fast accelleration, more weight in vehicle or heavy a/c use. also, rain creates drag and requires more juice to go the same distance.
just want to point out that you can subtract the weight of your 16 yr old and the bike but you should stay in the car or else things get dangerous
Think about it in terms of the HSI. How often do you bring it up into the second half of the HSI? How much of your trip is it at least halfway? Are you timing lights? These are some big variables into getting up into the 17's and 18's even with air running.
Keep HSI at 1/8 to 1/4 or BELOW. You will get 15-17 miles actual EV. The key is stay below 30mph and keep it steady, use cruise control on a country road with no traffic and flat, I got 18.1 actual miles last week. Its all about keeping HSI near bottom of its range
Been doing the same trip for about a week now, on this trip to jobsite i have to run a 45mph road for approx 15 miles. Ive been experimenting with speeds. It seems to me, the break point is 40mph. Here is what I mean. On a flat,consistent road with no starts or stops, just a flat country road.....40mph IMO is the "tipping" point where you will yield the same ACTUAL EV miles as your EV estimate. CAVEAT: EV estimate of 14.5miles, this has been my EV "estimate" now for most the summer according to my driving. So for me it seems if I go 45mph, on a flat road with NO stops, I end up around 13.2 actual miles...or If i can blend in 40mph with some 37mph I will end up with 14.8 actual. Either way, it always seems to be around 40mph the tipping point to getting 14.5 actual miles. I think this makes sense, and this is where TOY has put the approx "tipping" point of where the ICE kicks in under moderate driving conditions. Maybe this will help new owners. But remember this is flat going with no stops on CRUISE CONTROL. Dan
I don't think that is the case Dan, sorry. I think it is your tipping point because that is what speed you normally drive. It totally has to do with what it thinks you will get based on previous driving. Mine is up over 17 now and there is no way I would get that driving 40 constantly.