1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Prius died on freeway. 3 lug nuts missing, is this the cause?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Branndon, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. 2009Prius

    2009Prius A Wimpy DIYer

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    2,705
    510
    63
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    It says
    I am attaching the PDF of the warranty booklet. "Inverter with converter" is also in the parts list of the Federal emission control warranty, with the same footnote "Covered under the Hybrid System Warranty for eight years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first." So I think the answers to my questions in the earlier post above are that the inverter should be in the parts list for the CARB states and that it should be covered up to 15 yrs/150K miles, since the only exception spelled out in the booklet was the hybrid battery (10 yrs/150K miles).
     

    Attached Files:

    Patrick Wong likes this.
  2. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    18,200
    6,482
    0
    Location:
    Green Valley, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I agree with your observation, after reading the entire booklet (thanks for posting the pdf.)

    Yes, I think this is a reasonable conclusion.
     
    2009Prius likes this.
  3. Branndon

    Branndon Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    81
    3
    0
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Follow up, they got it covered under warranty, and I should have the car back by tomorrow. Thanks everyone who contributed to trying to find the problem!
     
  4. css28

    css28 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2012
    1,566
    442
    3
    Location:
    Suburban Detroit
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    That's terrific!

    Thanks for the follow up!
     
    Branndon likes this.
  5. Priusyipee

    Priusyipee Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2012
    354
    269
    3
    Location:
    Upstate New York
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    It's always good news to hear that the repair was covered under warranty through Toyota! Thanks for the update!
     
  6. Branndon

    Branndon Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    81
    3
    0
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Just got the car back, and looking at the paperwork, that seemed to be the only problem. Thanks for all the advice everyone. I bought a new batter, probably unnecessary, but my old one was 3.5 years old anyway. Is there any problem with going with a standard battery type rather than an optima?
     
  7. jdenenberg

    jdenenberg EE Professor

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2005
    3,872
    1,871
    1
    Location:
    Trumbull, CT
    Vehicle:
    2020 Prius
    Model:
    LE AWD-e
    There are there are 4 issues to consider when replacing our little Prius 12v battery:
    1. Size - it is a 51R where the "R" stands for reversed terminals (positive on the left with the terminal side facing you). This also means that the total capacity is reduced (about 30 amp-hours) and you should look for a battery that can tolerate deep discharges.
    2. Terminals - It has the smaller Japanese style terminal posts versus the SAE standard terminals.
    3. Chemistry - As the battery is in the passenger compartment, the sulfuric acid is contained within an "Absorbed Glass Mat" (AGM) to contain possible spills.
    4. Vented - Again due to the battery being in the passenger compartment, the battery is "sealed" so that in normal circumstances no gasses are released and vented to handle any fault condition the releases gasses due to excessive internal pressure via a vent tube.
    There are several batteries that address all of these requirements. The three most popular ones are:
    1. Optima DS46B24R yellow top - a spiral wound battery AGM that is rugged, but a bit expensive
    2. Exide Edge 51JIS Flat Plate AGM - A cost effective alternative
    3. Toyota OE Battery - Dealers tend to overcharge for their battery
    JeffD
     
  8. Branndon

    Branndon Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    81
    3
    0
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Well, the terminals on the old optima were the larger, standard sized terminals, so the new battery I got also has these larger terminals. I'm sure it's not one of the three you listed, rather another small battery with the terminals in the correct position +/-. Should I do anything special to make sure it's vented? I wonder if I can order an optima online, and return this one still... I'll find out.
     
  9. The Electric Me

    The Electric Me Go Speed Go!

    Joined:
    May 22, 2009
    9,083
    5,798
    0
    Location:
    Undisclosed Location
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Well, I think we can safely put the "It was the Lug Nuts" theory to bed.
     
  10. richard schumacher

    richard schumacher shortbus driver

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    7,663
    1,041
    0
    Location:
    United States
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    But it does leave open an important question: why did the inverter fail? The first suspect is the inverter's cooling system. Make certain that the dealer makes certain that it is operating correctly (pump, plumbing, adequate coolant, etc.) before you take the car back.
     
    edthefox5 likes this.
  11. edthefox5

    edthefox5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2007
    10,096
    4,817
    0
    Location:
    Clearwater, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Uart is correct. I bet they clamp off the coolant hoses on the Inverter too.

    Take some Inverter coolant out with a turkey baster and look at it in a clear jar. Cloudy needs to be changed asap.