School Shooter Gestures during Sentencing

One thing the Chinese Court system has on ours, take the convicted murderer out behind the Courthouse, bullet to the back of the head, bill the mother for the bullet!
Next case!

 

The little boy killer did much more than just flip off folks in court.

I won't say it here.

But...



I am hopeful he has justice served to him from behind the walls... because him being allowed to live on the dime of working Americans the remainder of his days breathing air is a slap in the face of justice.

 

Sad when you read this article, how deeply depraved this kid is, and how no one caught this sooner and got him help. Now innocent people are dead. Many lives are ruined. Victims are helpless.

This kid will spend a lifetime behind bars tormented every day by his mind.

 

^^^

Some folks are just evil, and you cannot "help" them...

This little dirtbag needs killing.

 

But this 'jailhouse justice' still sucks out some of whatever humanity might remain in those who serve it, and those who tolerate it under their watch. I don't want it to involve anyone who I might encounter on the streets in the future. Guards and administrators included.

(I do believe in self defense. Defense and justice are separate.)

 

I tend to have a idealistic view of the world where everyone is good and people can be helped. However reality Is the opposite.

 

Perhaps if we're all lucky he'll slip in the shower about 30 times like Dahmer did.

 

Wonder if it is a Exorcist type scenario, he was possessed albeit no lawyer would support that position

 

Tragic for everyone involved.

But it sounds like a poorly run courtroom. I feel sorry for the victims families that have been forced to live through the tragedy of losing loved ones, and then have that compounded by being taunted by the perpetrator. Where's the Judge in this case? I know laws in handling minors are different, but I would of had him removed from the courtroom or gagged. I certainly would of insisted his "killer" shirt be changed. There is no real excuse for him being allowed to taunt people in the courtroom. The Judge is suppose to control that environment.

 

While He is alive there is hope he will become a human being. I mean that in the "good" since of the word.

 

Unfortunality this kid will not participate in the economy but just be a drain on it.

However this kid in his feeble mind will never have the joy of purchasing a new car and driving your favorite gal on a date. I guess he never thought about that.

 

I would agree if he had directly taunted the family more than once. But the article suggests that he did not repeat this.

As for taunting the judge in the moments just before sentencing, by smirking and displaying a very offensive Tshirt, I have no problem with that. The judge is a paid professional who should be able to handle it. The defendant is only digging his own hole deeper. If he has any remaining humanity, he will eventually understand that he dug it himself, and the greater climb out is essential for his redemption. If none is left, this deeper hole is insurance against future release.

[note: I'm trying to not use these killer's names, as part of an effort to deny them the twisted glory they seek.]

I don't know enough about this particular case, but most of the others appear to have raised many warning flags prior to their most serious act. Some of these warnings already carry legal obligations to notify other authorities. But we don't yet have enough understanding of the individual, institutional, and social obstacles that prevent us from acting on these warnings.

 

It's a failure of courtroom decorum which IS the judges responsibility to attempt to maintain. He is being held before being brought to the courtroom, the fact that he was able to conceal this offensive self made T-Shirt and reveal it during a court procedure is representative of a failure of protocol at the very least. Ask yourself, how does he end up in a courtroom with a concealed T-Shirt? Then ask yourself what else he may of concealed because obviously nobody is checking. Ridiculous that he able to evidently make this T-Shirt, conceal it, then reveal it, without anybody noticing or stopping him.

Yes, maybe turning to the victims and taunting them was an instant happening, inwhich nobody could predict. But I'll tell you something.....he would of done that exactly ONCE in any courtroom of mine. After that incident he would of only been allowed to return- gagged and bound.

There is nothing in the article about anyone trying to stop him as it's happening either. Courtroom security should react the moment he turns to public and starts acting out.

Again, sounds like a poorly run courtroom.

 

I agree. He should have immediately been slammed face down to the floor- Hard! Then he should have been gagged and hog tied. I suspect the inmates where he is going will have a special welcome for him.

 

There is vengeance, justice, and fixing the problem.

Use some self discipline to not let vengeance lower your thinking to his level. I don't want to think anything bad on any person, no matter how tempting. It's not going to make anyone any better, but it's going to only drag you down. At the very worst, you start thinking that hurting another human may be needed. It's never needed. Don't go there.

Then use the same discipline to think of what the proper justice needs to be. One sensible thing that happens with this kid's behavior is letting it show in a courtroom where the judge is very patient. Nobody will question that the minimum proper justice is being served. Correct justice focuses on preventing and helping every victim first, then figuring out what to do with the problem makers after the innocent are fully protected.

Then shift gears and try to see how and where this behavior came from. Was he on any medication? What happened in his upbringing. There may be an answer, there may not? If there is not, well it should be life in prison as a minimum. Whatever the case, try and figure out what can be done to save the next victim. Spending your thinking on how to make the world a better place against hard problems will eventually result in a better place. (Do not take this last position as some loony concept that one is not responsible for their actions. Even if the "cause" can be figured out, justice still must be preserved first.)

 

My personal belief is a life sentance is cruel. And it is an unfair burdone on society to give these folks free room and board on our dime for the rest of their days.

I don't believe anyone should be incarcerated for more than 10 years. Society changes about every ten years or so, and when the inmates are released, they can't catch up and re-enter society easily at all, much less get in and become productive members of our society... and that is a major factor in them returning to a life of crime to get by.

If you cannot rehabilitate them in 10 years or less = KILL THEM.