Car firms 'blocking green fuel'

Duh! :blink:

 

Bush and Chaney do not own McDonalds and Burger Kings of the world.... If they did, they would have supported the Bio-Diesel solution.

Imagine selling crappy food for profit and then selling the crappy oil to fuel their cars (double killing). :lol:

 

Obviously, Car producers and Gas producers, Are not intereset at all in change of bussiness. They dont want to change whole refineries to produce green oil. it would implies enourmous investments in new factories. It is easier to rise the gas price. It does not require more invest. and very profilable.....

 

This reminds me of those alien autopsy articles in the supermarket tabloids that quoted "swiss scientists". Whose is prof. blyth? I can infer the gov't he influentially advises is the UK. Why doesn't he fire up the bunson burner back at his university lab and make us some green fuel? All together a waste of photons.

 

Is it really so obvious? At the risk of sounding like Malorn, do you think that GM sees its current path towards British auto industry status a good thing. I can see how the oil industry is kind of stuck in a peak oil scenario, but what's the logic and where's the evidence of GM scheming to go down with the ship? They may be short sighted and incompetent but I doubt they're in some grand conspiracy to save the oil industry's buttes.

Except for that 100 mpg carburator invention thingee they've kept from us all these years.

 

I had the same thought. Every few years you used to hear about some "powerful" oil industry executive buying up the "rights" to a 100 MPG carburator back in the 1970's. Or the updated version like in the article linked above. People believe this stuff. Or they say they do, at least.

The majority of the investment in alternative energy is by the oil companies. They are searching for alternatives, because they want to sell those alternatives and continue to get our money for years to come. They aren't buying alternate fuel companies to bury their research, but to incorporate it.

 

Incorporate them???...in brazil, most cars run on ethanol, a kind of alcohol produced from sugar cane, why not in america????...in Colombia, some cars run on propaine and gas....why not in america????....incorporating technologies????......

 

Yeah the old high mileage carburetor urban legend. It would be great if it really existed. If GM or Ford really had something like that, they wouldn't sit on it. They'd put it in all of their gas guzzlers and would make a trillion dollars per year. Heck, they'd do it just to be able to thumb their noses at Toyota.

 

Calm down. There are cars in america that run on propane and gas. My city uses buses that run on natural gas or propane, I forget which. Ethanol is expensive welfare for red states and depending on who you believe is a net fossil fuel loser. Sugar cane is ruining the Everglades, what's it doing to Brazil? Go to some oil company's web site. I'm sure they have lots of pretty pictures of windmills and mirror farms and propane tanks. Whatever alternative energy source, if any, proves viable I'm sure it will require lots of raw materials, processing, and distribution. Things oil companies are good at and wouldn't mind doing instead of building oil drilling platforms.

Edit: Oh, I also believe there will be severe side effects that alt energy that weren't anticipated. Oh and I also believe I'm going to have beer.

 

ok....there are side effects, but what about renewable energy sources, and about energetic indedendence from far east. Far east guys say, they are going to stop selling oil in 50 years. I think is a very close dead line to change whole america to another kind of energy, in adition the "not doing" of this "texan" presidency.

 

I live in California. We had flex fuel technology available for quite a while, and one of the fleets where my wife works still runs on it. LPG cars are available. You can order one today.

The question is ... since these are available, why aren't YOU driving one?

 

I have people in my neighborhood that are very close to energy independent. They have solar cells on thier roof, and their electric meter runs backwards when they are generating more than they consume. They ride bicycles a lot, and rarely use their car (they did come to look at my Prius, but it still uses too much gasoline for them to go back to commuting every day).

If you really feel strongly about it, why aren't YOU energy dependent? The technology is here already. Why haven't YOU adopted it?

 

You're absolutely right. If all Fords suddenly got 50, 60, 70 mpg or more, do you think they'd ne loosing any money? Hell no. I'd drop my Prius like a hot muffler and go get me a(nother) Ford.

I mean seriously now, if they had a 100 mpg carb, why would they hide it away? Becuase they're scared of selling cars faster than they can make them?

Actually, it's because it's a carb. They don't use those any more...

 

He's doing PLENTY

took a budget surplus and gave it to the rich
ran the economy onto a death-defying deficit
thereby saddling future generations and not allowing them to make their own priorities
ruined worldwide goodwill toward this country
abandoned New Orleans
allowed bin Laden to run free
raped and pillaged this country's natural resources
divided the US people on a level not seen since the Civil War
brought expectations and civil discourse to a new low
made AWOL, drunk driving, paying supportive question posers a requirement of the presidency

take breath john...relax those fingers...oh, what's the point. Conservatives love him, progressives don't.