Prius Plug in Deal

They are in Phoenix or CA. I don't think that they would go all the way to MD to save a few hundred bucks then spend on freight back to them? Somehow I think that they are just pulling your leg. If they had any business clue they would know how far you can go on these forums discussing what if cases that will invariably end up on nothing
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They may be lighter, but the Li Ion cells are like workhorses for efficiency and life span. They have been around for the last 20 years. Only a few years on cars. Any new technology would be more compact but with no heritage, so you would be taking a gamble that right after their warranty expire you may have a really expensive repair to deal with. Hopefully they would be much cheaper though. It is like gold and silver. Both are great conductors , but the price difference would allow for cheaper cars to be made available in direct competition with the dinosaur fuel driven internal combustion engines. Another thing that they may help on is to bend them in different shapes and that way use all the corner spaces and avoid taking away much prime space in the center of the car and the back trunk.

 

220+ miles? That's beyond Physics. Do you get the energy for the plug in out of thin air? If you were to add the cost of KWh you have used plugged in at your home power outlet you will find out that 100 MPGe is an average value where most plug ins won't be able to get much better.

If you could plug it in each time you drive without discharging the battery completely then ideally you would not need to buy gas for a long time. On your basis the MPG would keep rising to 500 MPGi in no time.
So unless you park near a wall with an unmetered outlet the 200 MPG claim is totally invalid.


At a cost of about 0.12c/KWh you will be hard pressed to get better than 100 MPGe on any plug in. Anybody advertising or claiming more than that is not comparing apples to apples.

 

Hello! I see that you have dug up an old thread and decided to answer everyone. Out of curiosity, what do you drive personally?
220+ mpg is not overblown, some people get these numbers easily, it really depends on what your driving and charging patterns are. Please don't accuse people of lying if you don't know what you're talking about.
Your defense of the dealer is also pretty hilarious. Dianne posts her "deals" on PC regularly and somehow that hasn't driven her out of business. We've also put together a spreadsheet here on the forum listing what people have paid for the car. Perhaps you should check it out.
None of the lease deals make any sense for someone who only wants the car for three years. The payments alone generally come out to something like $300x36=$10,800 at a minimum before all taxes and fees, do you seriously think this car will lose $11k in value over three years?
Anyway, welcome to the forum. Hope you can learn some things here.

 

Yes, $11,000 is just about exactly how much the Prius Plug In will lose in about three years.

Lensovet, you post good information often but have a negative tone to too many of your posts.

 

wow.

 

i'm sorry, where are you getting this from? A comparably-equipped 2010 Prius, which is now three years old, retailed for $24,800 including the nav system when new. The private party resale value today with 36k miles, according to KBB, is nearly $20k. That's a depreciation of just $5k. $11k??? What?

I'm sorry, but when a poster who does not even own a PiP himself comes into this forum and accuses others of lying because he can't be bothered to understand the difference between MPG, MPGe, and "MPGi" (whatever that means).
Also, dealers will have no sympathy from me, so I find it hard to reconcile defenses in the manner that Basilio did.

 

Using the depreciation calculator on Money-Zine, the 3 year depreciation on a $28,000 car ranges from a low of $9800 and a high of $15,100. Somewhere in between lies the truth...

 

Except that the base pip is a $33k car and the Prius depreciates slower than comparable vehicles.
But alright. Let's revisit this thread in 2 years and see who was closer to the truth.

 

I had a 2001 Prius for 9 years and then sold it for $12,500 less than I paid.
I guess it only depreciated $1500 in the last 6 years.
(I sold it for about $1000 less than KBB because I knew the buyer.)

Mike