1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

So, How Many 220V Chargers So Far?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by El Dobro, Dec 3, 2012.

  1. El Dobro

    El Dobro A Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    7,027
    3,241
    1
    Location:
    NJ
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Or are you sticking with the 110V.
     
  2. chesleyn

    chesleyn Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2012
    596
    158
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I'm using 240v. Sent my EVSE in for upgrade months ago. 110/120 is too slow.
     
  3. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2009
    3,028
    2,369
    0
    Location:
    Silicon Valley
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I used 110v at home (actually it is ~115v) and 220 at work via Charge Point. There are about 10,013 charging spots according to their web site. Blink has 2645 according to their site. I think these guys publish numbers that don't include private home chargers.

    Mike
     
  4. mnml

    mnml Ain't nobody got time for that.

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2012
    377
    161
    4
    Location:
    Ladera Ranch, CA
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    I'm currently using the stand 110 but plan to upgrade to the 240 in a few months.
     
  5. El Squish

    El Squish Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2012
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    110v seems plenty fast for my uses since the battery is so small. Most of the time it only takes a couple of hours to top it off. If I eventually get another EV vehicle then I will upgrade to 220v.
     
  6. priuskitty

    priuskitty PIP FAN

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2011
    2,286
    335
    0
    Location:
    Clawson, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
  7. devprius

    devprius /dev/geek

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2006
    979
    291
    0
    Location:
    San Francisco Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I use a 240V EVSE at home, and my portable 120V EVSE one at work. Allegedly they're replacing the old legacy chargers at work with new ones, but they've been promising that for 4 or 5 months...
     
  8. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    My car sits for up to 10 hours at work and at home. That means up to 14 hours a day it is sitting around plugged in doing nothing. The battery capacity will have to be at least greater than 3x it's current size before I bother with upgrading from the standard 110. I really wished that the PiP had the same battery capacity as the Volt. I'd gladly give up trunk space for greater EV range.
     
  9. mrbigh

    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2005
    3,686
    699
    2
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    I'm using 240 VAC at home and the regular Toyota EVSE at work once in a while.
     
  10. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2009
    3,028
    2,369
    0
    Location:
    Silicon Valley
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    But would you have gladly paid $10K more for this?
    I'm thinking most people would not.

    Mike
     
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,133
    50,050
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    you can get a 20 mile add on from pis, takes very little space.
     
  12. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,133
    50,050
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i just got the OPEN EVSE from mitch672. $500. and it's good for 30 amps down the road. i put my toyota evse in the back and charged at work for the first time. now i'm back to all electric like summertime.:)
     
  13. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Heheh, obviously not, but the federal government rebate would be $7500 if the battery were the same capacity as the Volt. So true costs would be $5000. I'd pay that. I admit though, i'm probably in the minority.

    The horror story on here:
    Plug-In Supply DIY | PriusChat
    Has made it clear that I will never do business with PIS.
     
  14. lensovet

    lensovet former BP Brigade 207

    Joined:
    May 23, 2009
    2,614
    496
    0
    Location:
    Burlington, NJ
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    so i just wasted like an hour of my life reading all those pages, but i do not know, horror story? the whole lawyer thing is kind of intense and over-the-top, but that's the only red flag i'm seeing there, and it looks like it got resolved. it seems that the biggest issue by far is the long lead time and lack of any real publicly-available documentation. it's also clear that he's stretched very thin.
     
  15. Adam Leibovitch

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2012
    498
    102
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    And after you spend the extra $5k, you have to spend another $1,400 on a decent EVSE. Then if you want to take advantage of cheaper charging, you have to pay to get another meter run to a dedicated line. Not sure what it costs others, but my uncle said Edison wanted $4,000 to run a line for his tesla, but I don't know how complex his job was comparatively.
     
  16. ny_rob

    ny_rob Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    1,968
    813
    0
    Location:
    L.I.- NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I sent my 120v stock Toyota EVSE in for 240v upgrade last week- they got it in CA yesterday- hopefully I'll get it back this week for 240v charging at home...:)
     
  17. mrbigh

    mrbigh Prius Absolutum Dominium

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2005
    3,686
    699
    2
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    How are you managing with your daily morning recharge? Still you have your open spot?
     
  18. grodnyc

    grodnyc Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2012
    24
    2
    0
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Does anyone know the amperage for the 240V? Trying to determine the gauge of wire (most likely 12 AWG) for the 240V for the plug that I am going to install. Going to send my stock EVSE for the upgrade.

    Thanks
     
  19. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    20,174
    8,353
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    Well since you don't say how long your run is, it's impossible to say what guage wire to use with real accuracy. However, why go cheep? Run a nice heavy 12 or 10 guage and that way, if the next gen's on board charger is 2x as powerful, you'll still be good to go. All you'll have to do is slap a bigger breaker into your service panel. ;)

    On a different note, since 120v is appx 10%-15% less efficient than 240v, using 120v effectively wastes juice. That said, I'm charging 120v here at work ... but that's all they offer.
    .
     
  20. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,133
    50,050
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    the breaker is 20 amp, the car charger will only pul 12 amps so 12g is fine for most household applications. if you're making a really long run, you might want to use 10g.