Plug-In Prius grille-blocking

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  1. rockerdan

    rockerdan PiP Rocks!

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    In for pics too.....is there anyway to block it behind the front facade of car so it looks decent? I assume cardboard would fall apart from wetness quickly...are you using some sort of plastic coated board?

    thanks
    Dan
     
  2. Search grill blocking on Gen 2 or Gen 3, or wait for John.
     
  3. Normally use foam pipe insulation.
     
  4. Rebound

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    In completely unrelated news:
    I worked until about 8:30 one night this week. I left work with a depleted EV battery, and I needed gas. I filled up, noted my 77 MPG in Fuelly, and hit the freeway.

    For the trip home, I set the cruise control to 48 MPH. The car-reported stats were surprising:
    Time: 50 mins
    Avg speed: 36 MPH
    Mileage: 71 MPG

    The car never used EV mode. At this point, I think it's safe to say that this car gets better HV mileage than a standard Prius.
     
  5. a priori

    a priori Canonus Curiosus

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    I've just completed my grill blocking for the winter. I don't have a PiP, but the concept is quite the same.

    I used 1 1/8" ID A/C pipe insulation. It is a closed cell foam "rubber" that is a dark charcoal in color. I bought one 6' section and cut it in half. I split each half length-wise. Each piece is pinched and pushed into the grill. The foam's expansion is enough to keep it in place.

    The picture below is enhanced a bit to show the foam. It really is much more difficult to see, and most people won't even notice it.

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    looks great! thanks.
     
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    no question, very nice!
     
  8. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

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    No pictures with my PHV yet, but it basically looks the same as the 2010 with the same gray foam and squeeze method...
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    Here's the poor man's grill blocking - posted here on PC a while back . . . it made me smile

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    I like the little "louver" at the bottom!
     
  11. That's a hand hold to pick the car up! Crude but effective.
     
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    I use pipe insulation as well blocking both upper and lower grill. A bit of air can pass by upper grill but lower is blocked completely.
    Currently is only -5C (23F) and making 16km (10mi) trip the coolant temp hardly goes to 70C (158F) the heater is ON.
    Looking at the coolant temp gauge, when I stop on a major intersection when ICE is OFF the coolant temp can drop by 10C (18F)
     
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    I have a 2010 Ptius III & if I set my CC to only 48 MPH I can get 71 mpg too but that is unrealistic for my area. I've even experimented with my 09 Corolla a few years ago when I was driving through a 50 mile stretch of construction zone in the middle of New Mexico. I set my CC at 48 MPH for those 50 miles & I averaged 54 MPG! If you drive slower at that speed you can achieve very high MPG numbers. :)
     
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    Oh fudge.
     
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    30°F for the morning commute yesterday.

    It was the usual 70 mph route, 3 blocks of suburb driving before hitting the highway. No heater yet, just cracked two passenger windows to the glass from fogging.

    9.3 miles into the trip, the high-speed cruising in EV-BOOST mode came to an end and the engine shut off. At that point, the coolant had warmed to 166°F.

    Driving in EV all the way to the 16.5 mile mark, the battery-pack was depleted. The coolant temperature had dropped only to 105°F. That's not too bad considering the time & distance traveled without the engine. When it did start back at that moment, it only ran for 0.1 mile. As soon as the coolant hit 114°F, I was back to electric-only driving again... in STEALTH mode which doesn't offer as much power as EV mode. But that's ok, because all I had to do was climb up two floors to get to my parking spot in the ramp.

    Unexpectedly, I noticed the coolant temperature had continued to rise even though the engine was off. That actually makes sense now that I think about it too. The concentration of fresh heat from the pistons would take a little bit to circulate through the rest of the system.

    Anywho, the end result was a coolant temperature of 130°F and an overall average of 164 MPG.
     
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    PiP weeds out the short trips so the overall gas MPG will be higher.
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Perhaps, the extra heat is from the exhaust. It'll be nice if we have a custom PID to monitor that coolant loop from the exhaust. We may already have it but I have not explored yet.
     
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    Excellent point. That heating aspect of the system is easy to overlook.
     
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    John,

    Did you also block the upper grill?
    Did you detect ANY drawback in Blocking the grill or grills?

    Did any of the pre-production drivers mention Winter Grill Blocking to the Toyota engineers?
    Any concern?
     
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    I found this message from Ken1748 of Japan for the Gen3.
    He confirmed the HV inverter/motor coolant radiator is located at the top of the radiator.
    He believed we have to leave open the upper grill on the for better cooling of the inverter coolant during hot summer.
    Should be the same for the PIP.

    His Table listed:
    Celsius - - Fahrenheit - - - lower blocking - - % upper blocking %
    below 5 - - - -below 41 - - - - - - -100 - - - - - - - - - - 50
    5 - 18 - - - - - -41 - 64 - - - - - - - -75 - - - - - - - - - - 50
    18 - 30 - - - - -64 - 86 - - - - - - - 75 - - - - - - - - - - - 0
    above 30 - - - above 86 - - - - - - - 50 - - - - - - - - - - -0

    Therefore, the upper grill should only be 50% blocked when the OA is below 64 DegF and to remove it above 64. Also some of the lower grill blocking should be removed above 41 DegF.