Electricity Cost vs MPG

$0.12 was including federal tax credits though not tax benefits, nor state tax credits.

 

What you're saying doesn't make sense to me. You said that, before you got your PiP, you consumed less than 351 kWh/month. You pay 13 cents/kWh for that electricity. Your Prius consumes an additional 90 kWh/month, which is all Tier 2 power, which costs you 15 cents/kWh.

So it's 351 x 13 cents = $45.63
+
90 x 15 cents = $13.5
Total = 59.63

If you exceed Tier 2, only that additional overage is billed at the outrageous 30 cent rate.

As for reducing your consumption, you're way off-base. True, you could make all of those efficiency investments. But the bang-for-the-buck is replacing an electric dryer with a gas dryer. You can get rebates, and the cost savings is pretty dramatic. Electric dryers consume about 4,000 watts, and run for a very long time -- every hour is 4 kWh, so you could easily be burning 40 or 100 kWh a month on your dryer.

 

We finally replaced our electric dryer with a gas one a couple of years ago. Our electric bill dropped by a lot, and our gas bill only went up by a small amount. At least a $100 a month in savings. In retrospect, it's something we should've done as soon as we bought the house 13 years ago, but we had just bought the washer & dryer earlier that year and were loathe to replace the dryer after buying it so recently. Had I only known.

 

^^^
On the above, I'm not sure even have a gas line in the laundry room so switching would be out of the question, unless I got a gas line run.

 

Electricity cost is not used for determining MPGe, which uses the energy content of gasoline. Electricity cost is a necessary factor in calculating the cost per mile.

 

A friend got one of the new "condensing" clothes washer/dryers. It seems to use much less electricity than a conventional heating element based dryer plus he can throw a load of wash in at night and have dry clothes in the morning. It even has a setting so that it finishes at a scheduled time and he can take things out and hang them right away.

LG WM3987HW: Front Load Washer Dryer Combo | LG USA


edit: my friend corrected me in that it might not use less electricity, just less expensive electricity since he can run a full wash and dry load unattended overnight.

 

Interesting.
Doesn't ventless condensing dryer consume more electric compare to regular vented units.
Comparing load to load, not time operated.

My old dryer which came with the house 12 years ago might need replacement perhaps

 

One will also need to compare the energy lost from the house. A vented dryer is blowing a lot of heated (by one's furnace) air out of the house to be replaced by cold air from outside. It is complicated.

 

Good point. I called him to see and he said he hadn't really paid attention to the actual electrical usage. He get's free electricity from 10pm - 6am and with this unit he can set it to start washing at 10pm and it is finished drying at 6am.

 

...that is very interesting LG combo. I recently bought an LG high efficiency top loader washer. Its nice.
I only paid $150 for it on sale and after state green rebates. John- might be worth reporting under envrio thread for some further discussion. Would be nice to timer wash for overnight and then get lower utility charges at nite.

 

$150? lol .

 

New PiP owner here.

How does the cost of an hourly ChargePoint station compare with the cost of an hour of home charging? I figure you wouldn't be saving much on gas...say an hour L2 charge gets you 5-6 miles EV, thats only $0.45-$0.50 saved in gas max, and $??? in electricity. (not sure if you can even aggregate the savings, as the more you save on gas the less you save on EV since you'll most likely plug in til the same full charge you would have done, had you not used the ChargePoint).

So I figure, unless the ChargePoint is free or less than $0.30-$0.40 (not likely), its more economical to bypass the chargepoint fee in favor of gas/ home kwh?

 

right I got a $800 washer for $150 ($350 green rebate)
States can go overboard or slightly bad aim with green credits.
One state I am thinking PiP is $17500 after credits.

 

Right on the charging block on the cable, 12 Amperes, using a Watt Meter it shows a ,little over 3 KWHrs. 12 X 110 = 1320 watts for one hour. These numbers vary slightly based on many factors.

 

Where ever you live, I'm moving there!

 

KWHr charge .022, That's nice.

 

terpsmandan, Glad to know there's another PIP in the Area. Welcome.

 

Not really, as long as your home has gas, a contractor can run a gas line, it's not rocket science. It's just a pipe with a fitting, just like plumbing. Car aside, your energy cost savings will likely offset the expense.

 

We should all wave to each other, like Jeep Wranglers and CJ's do. 05 TJ is now my toy.