tachyon discs

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by bluejay, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. bluejay

    bluejay New Member

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    Has anyone used tachyon discs for Electric Magenetic Field protection? I saw them advertised specifically for the Prius battery--but I am unsure if it is worthwhile. I'd appreciate any input or information--Bluejay
     
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    What would make you believe, for one second, that they could/would actually do ANYTHING but deplete your check book?

    Pure scam, 100%.
     
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    How do you know this to be true?
     
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    By the absolute abscence of any scientific evidence to support the preposterous claim that some silly disk could somehow evade all other laws of physics to accomplish what is claimed.

    It makes no logical sense, there is no evidence other than the manufacturer's claims.

    Also, others have measured the EMF in the Prius and found it to be WELL within normal/acceptible limits so even if, somehow, this "miracle device" did do what it claims there is no point.
     
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    Doc , Doc, Doc, remember, there are still people who wear magnetic bands to ward off.........things. Does anyone notice that "Tachyon" is a term also used in "Star Trek" shows?
     
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    Hey, y'all wanna sponsor me to test the "TACHYONIZED SEXUAL TONIC FOR MEN" they also sell? :p
     
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    Yeah, I remember tachyons from Star Trek. Something to do with Romulans, I think, and time travel. They were supposed to be 'time particles', or something.
     
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    Tachyon
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
    A tachyon (from the Greek ταχύς takhús, meaning "swift") is any hypothetical particle that travels at superluminal velocity. The first theoretical description of tachyons is attributed to German physicist Arnold Sommerfeld; however, the concept has recurred in a variety of other contexts, such as string theory. Many strange properties have been attributed to tachyons, which also play a role in some popular science fiction. In the language of special relativity, a tachyon is a particle with space-like four-momentum and imaginary proper time. A tachyon is constrained to the space-like portion of the energy-momentum graph. Therefore, it can never slow to light speed or below.
     
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    This is certaintly one opinion--I like to hear from anyone willing to share if they used them and saw some difference. Facts change all the time--I'd take people's personal experience over any "scientic research." That's a loaded term in our country where the fact's. figures and evidence lean toward a desired outcome. Ya gotts give me something better.

    No one is determining my safety level of EMF's--please!!! And your making me sound like I am gullible. Cigarettes are safe too, so is GMO food!!
     
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    Remember, if you don't reverse the polarity of the neutron flow, you're flux will be out of whack all week.

    Next up: Hair Club for Men!
     
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    Try this - it's cheaper:

    http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

    Seriously - the tachyon discs are a scam.

    - Tom (PhD EE, electromagnetics)
     
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    that is so funny! Hey, call me crazy-- i'm willing to listen and try. There's got to be someone out there that at least tried them. No shame here--speak up and then i will believe it's a scam.
     
  13. efusco

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    Well, then you should buy this. If you believe annecdote over science then you won't beconvinced by anything. Personal experience? What--"I got them and never got brain cancer--see they work!" PLEASE yourself.

    Good science is good science. Bad science is bad science, and annecdote is very bad science. Someone out to scam makes ridiculous claims with quasi-scientific facts that people want to believe....that's why snake oil sold in it's day and that's why tachyon disks sell today. A sucker born every minute.

    And why wouldn't someone else determine the safe EMF level...how on earth would you arrive at your own determination? Someone must take measurements. Someone must measure affect over a population and make a best guess at what is safe. Now, if you personally want to try to reduce your EMF exposure below what others have determined that's certainly your choice, but don't confuse that with making yourself any safer...it just doesn't work that way.
     
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    Hey bluejay, I'll give you a serious reply.

    Several people have measured the EMF in the Prius and have found that it is on par with, or even lower than many conventional cars. A Swedish car magazine found that the Prius has significantly lower EMF measurements than the Volvos, BMWs, and Mercedes they measured.

    Bottom line - you do not need to worry about the Prius. There are many other sources of EMF, especially if you live in/near a city, that you'd want to limit your exposure to before even thinking about the car.
     
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    Do you know have information on Tachyon--is it a scam?
     
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    Well, this is only my opinion, but yes I believe that it's a scam.
     
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    Thank you for a kind and honest response --bluejay
     
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    I hesitate to even post a link, but is THIS the site you are referring to?
    http://www.tachyon-energy-products.com/ext...prius-disks.htm

    That is such an obvious scam I don't even know where to begin. "Silica Disks" indeed.

    "Silica" by the way, is just a fancy word for sand. The American Heritage Dictionary describes Silica thusly: "A white or colorless crystalline compound, SiO2, occurring abundantly as quartz, sand, flint, agate, and many other minerals and used to manufacture a wide variety of materials, especially glass and concrete."

    If you think sticking some glass disks to your battery is going to reduce EMF, go for it. May I recommend something from the recycle bin rather than paying $65 per disk? (Incidentally, Silica/Glass is a lousy EMF inhibitor. If it was a good inhibitor, your cell phone would not work with the windows rolled up.)

    See all that metal surrounding the battery in the photo? Now _that_ is a good EMF shield.

    And what does this jerk mean by "tachyonized"? Has he beat all of the best physicists in the world to the punch with a sure-fire method of generating tachyons and getting them to stay put in a glass disk?

    How do you know that all those Tachyons won't give you cancer? :)

    And finally, just for argument's sake, let's assume that these tricky little disks do everything claimed. The web site is showing them IN THE WRONG PLACE:

    1. The disks would only stop EMF travelling UPWARD from the battery, not FORWARD toward the passenger compartment.
    2. The electric motors under the hood and the inverter in a Prius generate thousands times more EMF than a battery. Dip those in "Tachyonized Silica" and you'll be all set. It might shatter if you hit a big pothole and then ruin your tires, but that's the kind of risk you have to take to stay healthy and pseudoscientific these days, isn't it?

    HOW YOU CAN SPOT A SCAM FOR YOURSELF:

    1. Web site makes a wild claim to solve a problem that you either didn't know you had or a problem so difficult to solve that no one ever solved it before.
    2. Web site uses lots of scientific-sounding mumbo jumbo but never comes clean about the process it uses.
    3. Lack of independent testing and reviews of said product. Lack of clinical testing of actual product in its current form and packaging. (Beware of references of "clinical tests" of a "key ingredient" in some magic elixer. You want peer-reviewed clinical tests of the complete final product.)
    4. No references to the alleged "science" from peer-reviewed journals.

    MY ADVICE:

    Stop worrying about EMF and start worrying about Di-Hydrogen Monoxide Poisoning, one of the leading causes of death in the industrialized world.

    Reference:
    http://www.dhmo.org/

    - Bob R.
     
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    Maybe these things will make my hair grow back. Goodbye rogaine, hellooo tachyon disks :lol:
     
  20. bluejay

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    Well since you all have had such a good laugh at my expense, let me go a step further. I use tachyon discs over my circuit breakers at home and i have an electic magnetic field personal portable detector. Take that !!! and I've showered with EMF removal soap. Not that I'm paranoid--just prefer to keep my space clean and healthly. Bluejay