what the best time in the year it good negociate price for Solar pannel

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  1. kknguyen1168

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    Currently I had install 20 solar panels from Clary Solar in San Diego, I would like to put 10 more for TAX :), and but they quote about 14500, that more than I expected, I paid 22k for for the first time, should I go back to them or go with different one, please help

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    I don't think the time of year has any real impact. The bigger issue is supply gluts due to economic slowdowns coincident with huge production capacity coming on stream primarily from China, factor in the order of magnitude drop in raw silicon price,, the price of panels keeps going down. I am now seeing panels close to .$50/watt. Can prices drop still further? Maybe, but it now getting cheap enough not to matter much,, they aren't (can't) keep going down in orders of magnitude without nearing zero. Unlike computers PV Has a physical presence that can't, barring technology breakthroughs, get smaller, or them much more efficient.

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    if you say were right, do you know why they want 14.5k for 10 more panel? are they try to rip me off?

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    Without knowing details, I cannot comment on the installed price. Do remember, panel prices are only a portion of the install coast. In addition you have inverters, labor, installation hardware etc all of which has alocal supply and demand quotient. If ydont Ike the price, shop elsewhere, but buying strictly on price for a PV system is false economy IMHO. What would matter tome is the quality of the installations and the quality of the components, and the rep of the installer.

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    This what they sent to me, please let me know what you think.

    Khoi,
    The system for the front of you home will be
    10 Schuco 240 Watt Modules
    Enphase 215 Watt inverters.
    Tilted to the West.
    $14,762 Upfront Cost
    CSI Rebate -$410
    Out of Pocket $14,352
    -$4,306 Tax Credit
    2.4 Kw system facing 299 degrees NW
    Estimated production 254 kwh/month
    Price $13,300
    CSI Rebate -$410
    Out of Pocket $12,889
    Tax Credit -$3,867
    Net Cost $9,022
    Aron Hauser|Clary Solar
    Sales and Marketing Manager
    10360 Sorrento Valley Rd. Suite C | San Diego, CA 92121
    P: 619-322-7953 F: 866-203-3123
    www.clarysolar.com
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    I don't have any real opinon,, $6/ watt before tax credits is not out of the ball park, but check with other installers if you feel the price is out of line. ((I don't do grid tie installs so I can't speak to the current retail installed prices).

    PS I would not publish your phone number on line in forum like this, as it is a vector for bad things to happen.

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    Personally, I would run, not walk away from that deal. I would never point panels to the north. You don't want to go past 270 degrees. Given your location and proposed orientation of the array, that system can expect to produce 3285 kWh in a year. If you were able to point it due west, you increase the amount to 3585 kWh, and a due south pointing gives you 3849 kWh.
     
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    thanks for your info, do you know anybody better or better solution?, if my roof is that way and this is best best they can do, how much do I should asking for.

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    I would skip it, or get bids from other solar installers to see if they can come up with a better design. I'm kinda surprised that a reputable installer would even think of such a system.

    What is the size and configuration of the existing system (type & number of panels, inverter(s) used, orientation of panels, etc)? Are you out of roof space to expand the existing system?
     
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    yes I am running the space from current system from back roof of my house, the current one have 20 panel, 20 mirco inverter, 215w shuco and m190, I would like to install at least 10 more to the front. This is what current I have
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    Unfortunately, I can't login to the Enphase site. You need to provide the public link (no login needed).
     
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    hi

    how do I do that? please tell me
     
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    hi
    Hope you can open the file, this is my system
     

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    Can't see. Looks like your system is not set for public viewing.
     
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    I will call enphase tomorrow and I will ask them
     
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